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Nope. That one was in fact a battle were losses were comparatively low (sorry, this sounds cynical) considering the dimensions of the battle. 12491 people were lost on both sides thousands of whom were southern prisoners. Moreover the battle stretched over three days (November 23rd to 25th. 1863), while the battle I'm talking of was fought on a single day.
As I said, look forther to the east. The battle took place earlier than the battle of Chatanooga.


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Savannah Georgia?
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No. Savannah was taken late in 1864. There was no large resistance against Sherman's federal army anymore. No real battle and certainly not the bloodiest day in US history.
The battle I'm talking about took place in 1862.


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I'll look up the Civil War in a book.
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It's certainly easy to find at google if you enter keywords such as "bloodiest day American history battle" or the like.


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I'm actually surprised we didn't name it already.  :unsure:


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I'm sure that it must be mentioned in history lessons. The issuing of the Proclamation of Emancipation was a direct consequence of this battle. Even though the proclamation had been prepared before Lincoln had to wait for a victory so it wouldn't look like a desperate attempt to gain support in defeat. Even though this horrible battle was more like a tactical draw it made General Lee turn back after invading Maryland, which was good enough for the proclamation to be issued. The battle I'm talking of (the bloodiest day in US history) was on September 17th 1862. Please give me just the two names of the battle (in the north it was named after a creek, in the South after a town) and the next question will be yours.


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Don't be too surprised Malte, when I say, it's very likely it's never taught. ;)  It's so shallow over here it's unbelievable.  Only the most major things are ever talked about for standardized testing....if it's not a large, important battle, we probably never learned about it in depth unless you take a separate Civil War course.


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Well, at least I recall reading about it in a history class book that was used in the school I attended during my exchange. It was a book used for the 7th to 9th grade if I'm not mistaken.


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Antietam Maryland, the furthest push into the North by the South until Gettysburg.
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Yes. Antietam was the creek after which the Federals named the battle. The Southerners named it after the nearby town Sharpsburg. Your turn Nick.


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Keeping with the Civil War, This date marked the fall of an important Southern city.
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Is it possible that (not giving the answer away yet so others can guess to) the date you are talking of is very important in American history, not only because of the fall of this southern city (which if I'm correct is located at the Mississippi)?


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Yes, that's the date I'm thinking of.
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I don't know the date, but I know I have the city - Atlanta, because it destroyed the transportation network between the Southern capital, and the New South (Mississippi, Louisiana, and Texas).  Everything went downhill for the south after that.


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It sure was a city capture that hit the south very hard (it was on September 1st 1864) and the immediate political result (it probably caused the reelection of Abraham Lincoln) was maybe even more important than the economical and strategic loss for the south.
Still this is not the city Nick is thinking of. He thinks of a town located at the Mississippi, and that other town really surrendered on the day that (in general) is probably the most important in US history.


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Oh, he wants Vicksburg then....it opened up the Mississippi River to the north when they took control of it. :)


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That's what I'm quite sure he is aiming at. Vicksburg was taken on Independence day 1863.


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That's it. Go ahead arvens.
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This town was put under seige during a major war and while millions died, those that put the town under it's watch, ultimately failed.  This town's name has also changed many times, and at one time represented a major political leader of the nation.

I purposely keep out names, dates, and all that to make it that trickier. :P: