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Petrie is supposed to be pointing at Pterano, but considering how his hands look, it's an extremely hard task to accomplish.

The rock formation is Tybalt's roost. I guess I completely forget to mention it. I have another design for it elsewhere. It's supposed to look like a beak, but I know I didn't achieve it this time :lol. We're seeing Pterano's roost from another angle, which is why Tybalt's is showing up :)


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:wub  GAAAAAASP!

LOOK AT BABY PTYRA!!! She's MORE ADORABLE THAN PETRIE! OHHHH.

SHE'S SO ADORABLE AND CUTE!  :D  :D


NICE ONE, Ptyra.



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I swear, I had water filling up my tear ducts when I saw baby Ptyra in Pterano's arms.

Nice job on Petrie, I know his tiny stick-sized fingers are hard to position.


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Technically, she's sitting in his hand =P .
Have you ever tried editing your posts? Sometimes it's much more convenient than making a new post :)

Anyway, here's our next sketch :) .

At this point, Ada and Pterano are in Tybalt's roost. It's also the "big point" in him choosing what would ultimately decide his fate: Begin an ambition to become a leader (Tybalt's offer) or simply avoiding leadership altogether and living a more peaceful life (Ada's offer). We obviously know which one he went for  :p . It comes back to bite, especially when his ideas of leadership are based on what Tybalt told him.


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Tybalt somehow looks friendlier than usual in this picture. His crest also looks different; thinner and not as craggy. Overall, though, all of the characters look very good (great job on all the feet! :DD). I particularly love how you drew Ada’s head and expression. You did a good job making Pterano look conflicted as well, though his beak tip is awfully rounded.

Also, something that just occurred to me: when you’re drawing a flyer who is frowning, smiling, or otherwise has a mouthline that is not completely straight, you should change the position of the corner of the beak to match the angle of the mouth. For example, the corner of Pterano’s mouth in this image is downturned, such that it is coming dangerously close to the lower outline of his beak. If the corner of his beak was also downturned, you would not have this problem, and in addition Pterano might look even more expressive.



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Ada looks like she's about to cry. Awwww... :cry

Yep, we all know the path Pterano chose...

note to Ptyra:I promise to cool it on the personal messages. I got too carried away. Sorry. I get so carried away sometimed. I do agree that I need to calm down, chill and relax.

Don't worry. I still like you the same.  :yes



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She's actually not about to cry, but BOY does she nag at him later!

Now in color!

I tried to make Tybalt a bit more...Tybalt-ish...and I removed some of the rocks :)


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Just looked at the latest updates on this thread...

I especially liked the comic scene with all of... I forget who's "herd" it is... Ptyra??? Pterano's daughter???

If that four footer who got his head stuck in a log lived in modern times, he'd probably say a phrase a la Three Stooges: HEY! Who tuyrned out the lights!!?  :smile

Strut probably just picked up a rock and threw it at the bees' nest... Just for fun...  :p

Reminds me of that scene in The Mysterious Tooth Crisis where some of the gang gets chased by a swarm of bees simply because Chomper tried to eat one.  :lol



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BTW, how are those fanfics coming along? If you have any new ones up, I'd like to know where they are so I can read them...

As for your fanfic on Deviant Art: I honestly don't remember which part of it I got confused on. I'd have to read it again to get a better idea...


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Yes, it's Ptyra's herd :) . I'm not really sure if you can call it a herd since they're all individuals of a species and there's only seven of them.

I'm having some serious writer's block with my stories. They're very complex and look like it'll take two years to finish off, like Twilight Valley. And then, for some, I'm not sure if I should have tons of flashback sequences to prevent myself from having three stories. Would flashbacks help with exposition?

And most of all, how the heck can I get the characters' personalities straight if the have "plot holes filled by fans", namely Pterano. I'd like to think of him as the D'Artagnan that never became a Captain (In Return of the Musketeers), perhaps because of failure to stop Justine DeWinter (who I REALLY hate :slap ) or something of that sort. Or maybe what he would have been like if La Feme Musketeer had been if it wasn't La Femme Musketeer, but something completely different (Women would never have DREAMED of becoming a Musketeer in the 1600's anyway :rolleyes: )


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Quote from: Ptyra,Apr 9 2010 on  11:59 PM
I tried to make Tybalt a bit more...Tybalt-ish...and I removed some of the rocks :)
The fact that you can’t see his scar from this side is probably a contributing factor to his apparent shortage of Tybaltishness. :p

I like that you made the sky a sunrise/sunset in the colored picture. In fact, the entire background is pretty nice. However, the two lighter rocks in the distance almost look incomplete compared to the others, due to the difference in shading and the few, spaced out, easily visible cracks.

Quote from: Ptyra,Apr 10 2010 on  09:15 AM
Yes, it's Ptyra's herd :) . I'm not really sure if you can call it a herd since they're all individuals of a species and there's only seven of them.
Well, the narrator of the first LBT called the gang of five a herd, so I think you can use that term for Ptyra's gang of seven. :p That reminds me: do the flyers in your story refer to groups of themselves as “flocks”, or do they use “herds”?

Quote from: Ptyra,Apr 10 2010 on  09:15 AM
And most of all, how the heck can I get the characters' personalities straight if the have "plot holes filled by fans", namely Pterano.
Forgive my cluelessness, but what do you mean by that? If you'll excuse the following analogy, are you saying that the canvas representing the LBT characters' personalities as established in the series has already been painted on by other fans who have shared interpretations of the characters and presented them in fanfics, when you'd prefer to create your piece using only your own palette of creativity to flesh out aspects of the characters as needed for the story?



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Quote from: Pangaea,Apr 11 2010 on  01:29 AM
Quote from: Ptyra,Apr 10 2010 on  09:15 AM
And most of all, how the heck can I get the characters' personalities straight if the have "plot holes filled by fans", namely Pterano.
Forgive my cluelessness, but what do you mean by that? If you'll excuse the following analogy, are you saying that the canvas representing the LBT characters' personalities as established in the series has already been painted on by other fans who have shared interpretations of the characters and presented them in fanfics, when you'd prefer to create your piece using only your own palette of creativity to flesh out aspects of the characters as needed for the story?
Ah, yes. I can see how that is confusing. I am trying to come up with my own storyline that fills in plot holes left by the movie, such as WHY Pterano became so attached to the concept of becoming a leader. I explain this with heavy influence from Tybalt during his youth. However, with Ada about, I'm not sure how I can make HER work with the way Pterano was in the seventh movie and making it seem understandable for the way he was, and not some badly sewn together work of a rabid twelve-year-old "fan brat". His relationship with Ada and Ptyra make this EXTREMELY hard though, and I am starting to notice little slivers of Mary Sue in them (ARGH!) and I most certainly want to avoid that!
(And some of my "history" fanfiction looks strangely like the new Star Wars saga, which I DEFINITELY want to avoid, keeping Pterano benign of an LBT-Anakin :lol )


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Well, we've got another sketch up!

This is almost immediately after Pterano officially becomes next in line for becoming leader of the flock...and Ada's disapproval is quite imminent. "Am I in trouble?"  

Another focus on this one was coming up with a size difference between Pterano and Ada...but should she be a bit smaller?
*WARNING* The background may be COMPLETELY different in the colored version.


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I gotta admit, this one gave me a chuckle when I saw it. :lol It brought back memories of the last picture you made of Ada grabbing Pterano’s beak
Ada grabbing Pterano’s beak (though obviously the emotional atmosphere is completely different :p). I assume this represents the nagging you mentioned before. :lol

Speaking of beaks, I noticed that Ada’s looks a bit larger than usual here (though it is EXTREMELY well drawn). The same seems to be true of her eyes, especially compared with tthe previous image (again, however, they look very good). Pterano’s beak and expression are very well done (the only thing I’d change about his head is the last bit of his crest, which is a little rounded on the underside and not pointed enough), and the corners of both characters’ mouths match up quite well with the corners of their beaks.

I can’t help but think, though, that seeing as Ada would have to have her wrist twisted around in order to have her thumb behind Pterano’s beak from this perspective, she’s not holding his head at a particularly good angle to force him to make eye contact with her. Also, the way the line of Pterano’s left wing membrane continues on through his hand to form the crease between his thumb and other fingers makes the hand look very strange. I’d suggest redrawing the thumb (it’s too short, anyway, in my opinion). And again Pterano’s wings seem to be meeting to form a “cape” behind his back and legs instead of attaching separately to his sides.

Both Ada and Pterano’s left feet look very good. Ada’s right one, however, is sort of strange-looking. For instance, it looks like her heel is on the inside of her ankle. Plus, the curve delineating the back of her heel should end at the same level as where the front of her leg meets the top of her foot. I’d also suggest putting a small, slightly curved sliver of visible background above the aforementioned foot/leg meeting point, to show that her wing membrane is not connected to her ankle. As for Pterano, there’s nothing really wrong with his right foot, but his leg seems to attach lower to his body and meld into his side. (Actually, Ada has the same problem of the top of her right thigh forming a continuous line with her side.)

As far as the size difference goes, I think it’s a good idea to keep Ada a little smaller than Pterano, but I think what you have here is pretty good. (I can’t remember how Pterano compares to Petrie’s mother in terms of size, but perhaps you could use that as a reference. Somehow, though, I think of Ada as being slightly larger than Petrie’s mother.) If you’ll excuse a scientific digression for the sake of a fun fact, :p real-life female Pteranodon (or, at least, the fossils which are assumed to represent females) were about a third smaller than the males (a 13-foot wingspan compared to 20–23 feet for the males), in addition to having much smaller crests and lacking the mild overbite seen in males.



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OMG I see you In DA you are Bat-snake

really nice!!!!! i love your drawing

I kwow you from LBT fan club DA


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I gotta admit, this one gave me a chuckle when I saw it.  It brought back memories of the last picture you made of Ada grabbing Pterano’s beak (though obviously the emotional atmosphere is completely different ).

For me, it invokes a scene where Pterano was about to say something pretty damning, and Ada shuts his beak and says: Not a word...  :smile


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^ The idea is that Ada's annoyed with him for taking up Tybalt's offer. She KNOWS it's going to lead him to trouble...and boy was she right XD
Whoop, now it's colored!

Now that I think about it, this could eventually lead to Pterano realizing that Ada is in love with him. And a leetle story to go with it!

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"Well, Ada!" Pterano exclaimed proudly. "I've moved myself up in this flock. Seems that your father--" Without warning, Ada clenched Pterano's beak with her hand and pulled it down so that he was looking at her eye to eye. "You, sir, are inconceivable!" She hissed. "I cannot believe what you just did! Do you pay any attention to your own brashness?" Pterano was startled by Ada's sudden burst of irritation. Yet she seemed more upset than annoyed. "Ada..." He mumbled and grasped her wrist. "Is there something wrong?" He asked. "You!" Ada exclaimed. "It's like you're flying into the jaws of a Sharptooth!" She let go of his beak and crossed her arms, looking at the ground. Pterano folded his wings around his shoulders and tilted his head curiously. It WAS his action that was making her upset. He knew she cared about him. Perhaps...yes. That was it. "No need to worry yourself anymore, Ada." Pterano grinned. "I know your little secret now." He said. Ada looked up at him hopefully. "You are in love with me!" Ada smiled. "Well...now that you've figured it out..." She reached for his hand. "Please try not to do anything foolish." She said. "When have I done anything foolish?" Pterano asked sarcastically. Ada sighed. "Now, let me ask you something." She began. "Do you love me?" She asked. Pterano was surprised. He had never thought about it. "Well, I care about you. I admit that when we were children, I was madly infatuated. But now..." Ada looked as though she'd seize his beak again. Pterano sighed and shook his head. "Yes." He said reluctantly. 
Something seems a bit off, but I can't put my finger on it. I've wondered how Pterano (especially a young Pterano!) would handle learning that someone was in love with him. I figured he'd be very Logan 5-like, but I'll get to that later.


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Beautiful picture! :DD The sky looks even better here than in the last colored image. And nice job coloring the rocks! :smile (There is, however, a sliver of sand visible behind the breaking waves on the right.)

Pterano’s left hand looks better, as does Ada’s left wing. Pterano’s crest tip and left foot (which was pretty well drawn to begin with) also look great now. :yes Ada’s right foot, on the other hand, isn’t nearly as good as before in a couple of respects: it’s rubbing outlines with her wing membrane, and the base of her innermost toe is greatly narrowed.

There’s an indentation in the underside of Pterano’s lower jaw above his throat pouch. The line of Ada’s lower jaw, too, looks a little shaky. Also, her right eyebrow is colored yellow instead of green. Correct me if I’m wrong, but it looks like you wanted to have part of her upper eyelid visible when you drew the sketch, but in the coloring process it didn’t work out; however, you accidentally gave her eyebrows the color intended for her eyelids. (Personally, I think her expression looks fine without eyelids; maybe even better than if they were visible. :))



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More sketches!

Heeere you go, Jared! Jared flier may be a bit younger than what you wanted but, HECK, it's a cute picture!

I do think that fish is a bit too big for Ptyra's little tummy, though XD

It's about that time of the Great Growing

Narcissism is beginning to kick in.

Here's young Pterano and Ada with...guess what?

STAR SWIMMER :D !

And now for Ada and Tybalt

I thought it would be more interesting for Ada's wing to be damaged that it would heal, but take a VERY long time to do so. Once it does, she returns home to find that Pterano and her egg are gone. Tybalt then explains to her what happened...with extreme truthfulness for a villain character.