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« on: July 15, 2008, 09:41:32 PM »
Discuss the Original Sharptooth here.

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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2008, 12:15:51 AM »
I wonder if it is more then just a normal sharptooth since it did fall that large distance and just got stunned, as did some other sharpteeth in later sequels, like the one in 6 I think.  I wonder if normal large sharpteeth are like that are is this a certain variety of sharpteeth.  Also I wonder if Chomper is of this variety, though we'll likely never find out.

Also are we really sure it, and the other one in 6, are really dead.  Maybe the one in the movie is just unconscious under the water unable to get out due to the stone being to heavy for it to left or push off of it, or unable to push off due to reach it or a bad angle.  Like the one in the 6th movie, it may be still alive, but unable to move & maybe unconscious.

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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2008, 04:35:32 AM »
^ It couldn't remain unconscious under the water surface for a very long time without loosing more than its consciousness. I think some people are speculating if there may be a connection between Redclaw and the original Sharptooth.
Personally I think that Sharptooth is really dead and there can be hardly a doubt that the makers of the original movie meant it to be dead (of course they were not expecting 12 sequels and a TV series based on their movie to be produced).
Certainly the original movie's Sharptooth was one of which one could have some real respect, unlike in case of some of those "childfriendly" versions of certain later movies. I do not think the difference is in the species of the sharpteeth though but more in the mind of the producers.
This however doesn't make too much sense as Mr. Grossvenor has proven that he CAN come up with decent Sharpteeth (LBT 6, 9) but he can also mess them up dreadfully (LBT 8, 10, 11, 12). Anyway, I guess I'm getting off topic referring to Sharpteeth other than the original, but for the sake of comparison it can hardly be avoided.

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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2008, 05:00:35 AM »
Maybe, but I still wonder if it has some other relatives, like the one in 6 that also fell a long distance and was just stunned.  & like I mentioned before, I wonder if Chomper is of the same variety as these 2 are, or if he's a regular sharptooth.

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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2008, 05:08:35 AM »
Is it just me, or did the original Sharptooth have some insane athletic abilities?  I'm just reminded of that bit in the original where he leaps onto the back of Littlefoot's mother.  That would probably be roughly like you leaping onto the back of a horse, so that your feet wound up on its back, and you were standing up.  

Seriously, I'm convinced if that shot had been done from a greater distance, it would look like something out of the Matrix.  

As for the Sharptooth in general, he was what the movie needed - a major threat.  I can't really think of anything else to say.

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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2008, 08:39:20 PM »
Quote from: Spike_of_the_Valley,Jul 16 2008 on  05:08 AM
Is it just me, or did the original Sharptooth have some insane athletic abilities?
The Sharptooth has physical abilities that rival Marvel comics superheroes.

He was thrown into solid rock so hard that it cracked (this occured more than once). He fell over 750 ft and landed on his back and was only stunned. He sustained several powerful blows to the head and body and seemed to only barely flinch (I'd guess that each blow from a full grown Apatosaur tail is like getting hit by wrecking ball).  

A fan fiction I saw had him thrown into the Sinking Sands and totally sunk in it (even his head), only to have him literally jump out of the sand moments later.


His jumping is also near (or at) supernatural levels.

As Spike_of_the_Valley says, his leaping onto the back of Littlefoot's Mother is equivalent to a human leaping onto a horse's back and standing up on the horse's back after the leap.

Also, he does that leap onto that ledge just before the boulder lands on him is at least 100 feet straight up.

A T-rex is 20 ft tall (although The Sharptooth may be larger). The leap he makes 5 times his height (or more).

That is like me (5 ft 4 inches) leaping on top of a 25 ft building.

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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2008, 10:31:18 PM »
Quote from: Serris,Jul 16 2008 on  07:39 PM
Quote from: Spike_of_the_Valley,Jul 16 2008 on  05:08 AM
Is it just me, or did the original Sharptooth have some insane athletic abilities?
The Sharptooth has physical abilities that rival Marvel comics superheroes.

He was thrown into solid rock so hard that it cracked (this occured more than once). He fell over 750 ft and landed on his back and was only stunned. He sustained several powerful blows to the head and body and seemed to only barely flinch (I'd guess that each blow from a full grown Apatosaur tail is like getting hit by wrecking ball).  

A fan fiction I saw had him thrown into the Sinking Sands and totally sunk in it (even his head), only to have him literally jump out of the sand moments later.


His jumping is also near (or at) supernatural levels.

As Spike_of_the_Valley says, his leaping onto the back of Littlefoot's Mother is equivalent to a human leaping onto a horse's back and standing up on the horse's back after the leap.

Also, he does that leap onto that ledge just before the boulder lands on him is at least 100 feet straight up.

A T-rex is 20 ft tall (although The Sharptooth may be larger). The leap he makes 5 times his height (or more).

That is like me (5 ft 4 inches) leaping on top of a 25 ft building.
Indeed. Perhaps that particular Sharptooth was endowed with supernatural abilities(i.e. the Force). How else are all those crazy feats possible?

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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2008, 10:53:54 PM »
Quote from: Kor,Jul 16 2008 on  04:00 AM
Maybe, but I still wonder if it has some other relatives, like the one in 6 that also fell a long distance and was just stunned.  & like I mentioned before, I wonder if Chomper is of the same variety as these 2 are, or if he's a regular sharptooth.
Kor that was a good question i dont know what kind of sharptooth Chomper is but there is something different about Chomper from other sharpteeth he has a close friendship with leafeaters and learned to speak to them quickly in the short time he was with them. I was wondering if Chomper could be related to any of the 2 sharpteeth or if his parents are related to any and if ther was a reason why Littlefoot and Chomper stayed such good friends and will it continue as they get older and time goes on? i just thought that they were neat ideas.  :)

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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2008, 12:20:01 AM »
THE Original Sharptooh. *shivers* that guy still gives me nightmares.

That guy was quite impressive.  No other Sharptooth could compare to him.  To make a Sharptooth that impressive without intimidating him would be a rather difficult task.

I just can't believe the kind of creature the creators of LBT made here.  I mean, the guy leaped on top of Littlefoot's Mother, survived a deadly fall, got wacked so hard his bones should've been broken... Seriously, he puts the other Sharpteeth out there (Even the impressive ones) to shame.

If anything, he was a REAL LBT Villian. :)

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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2008, 02:37:45 AM »
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How else are all those crazy feats possible?
Simply by the desire of the producers of LBT who should be, if not truly evil (Don Bluth mentioned in an article that he couldn't really see Sharptooth as a villain for just having to eat and follow his nature), at least of impressive abilities ;)

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« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2008, 04:18:44 AM »
He did have some abilities that other sharpteeth seemed to not have.  Makes me wonder if he was a one of a kind or maybe a variety that is seldom seen.

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« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2008, 11:04:53 PM »
Quote from: Kor,Jul 17 2008 on  04:18 AM
Makes me wonder if he was a one of a kind or maybe a variety that is seldom seen.
The gold sharptooth from LBT VI (Secret of Saurus Rock) did share some traits of The Sharptooth.

1.) Both were able to survive a fall of several hundred feet.
2.) Both used parts of their bodies as demolition equipment WITHOUT harm.

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« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2008, 02:06:52 AM »
Makes one (or at least me) wonder, are they just plot elements, or maybe a rare variety of sharptooth.

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« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2008, 10:46:16 PM »
Quote from: Kor,Jul 20 2008 on  02:06 AM
Makes one (or at least me) wonder, are they just plot elements, or maybe a rare variety of sharptooth.
Plot element only.

The gold sharptooth and The Sharptooth looked NOTHING alike.




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« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2008, 12:16:12 PM »
I hope they don't add anymore super sharpteeth.  What would be next, a dino that can leap 1/8th of a mile, like a certain famous character could in 1938 when he first appeared.  A fast runner that can run so fast they cause a sonic boom?  

1 super sharptooth would be enough.  2 is pushing it in my opinion.  With 1 one could say the super elements may not have really happened but were added by later generations telling the story of how their ancestors (littlefoot and the rest of the gang) got to the great valley & the kids perceptions of what the sharptooth was capable of & the things it did.

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« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2008, 01:50:33 PM »
I'm quite sure the producers never thought of any kind of sharptooth as a "special species" of one but just meant for them to perform in an impressive manner. Personally I would rather have another Sharptooth of the impressive (if somewhat exaggerated) appearance as that of the original movie than another one so impressively unimpressive as those of the recent sequels.

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« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2008, 03:45:18 PM »
As small and young as the gang are an adult sharptooth of one of the larger species, t-rex, allosaurus and others could, if written well, prove a challenge to the gang without need to add in any superpowers like surviving falls from long distances and being only stunned, and others sorts of powers.

Especially a mother with some teenage, or around that age, kids, maybe with the father too.

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« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2008, 10:56:14 PM »
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I hope they don't add anymore super sharpteeth.  What would be next, a dino that can leap 1/8th of a mile, like a certain famous character could in 1938 when he first appeared.
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« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2008, 04:47:27 AM »
As for the original and the LBT 6 Sharptooth, they were both presumed dead so it is not like there was any known implication of them having any "super-powers" (I don't really like the term in this context as it is closely associated with a genre LBT definitely doesn't belong to). However, chances happen. There have been cases of young kids falling out of second, third, or even higher floor windows and getting away with minor scratches. None of those kids is reported to have had any super powers.
As for the high leaps of the original Sharptooth I agree that there is probably no good explanation other than that the movie makers wanted him to be impressive. Personally I prefer the way of the original sharptooth by far over the clumsy harmlessness of sharpteeth such as those of LBT 10. I'm more ready to accept the falls of the original and the LBT 6 sharptooth as a possible (if unlikely) thing than I am to ready to accept sharpteeth being tripped by longneck kids crawling under their feet.

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« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2008, 12:08:39 AM »
I thought the death of that sharptooth was unreal as the part of him only getting unconscious after that big fall.For kids, it made sense at the time but it was that rexs die because they can't swim in shallow water.It is their arms are too weak yet they can fall from great heights and still survive. Chomper is a real sharptooth.The question is will he want to be littlefoot's friend when he is older or deny the whole thing so he can fit in with other sharpteeth. He will have to make a choice and it won't be positive.He will be outcast to the sharpteeth and flat teeth or he will be a sharptooth and have friends for dinner. Of course, he might not want to remember his Friendship with littlefoot and he doesn't. AFter all, wouldn't it be weird for a sharptooth to be friends with long neck especially in front of a sharptooth friend or sharptooth female? -_-