Oh my gosh!

F-14 Ace · **on:** April 20, 2006, 10:27:03 PM

Did anyone hear about the bear attack in Tennesee over the weekend? I just now heard about it. Three people were attacked by a blackbear and a 6 year old girl was killed. the other two people, who were her mom and brother, are in the hospital now. That is real scary. Our boyscout troop was at the same area where this happened just last month. Did anyone hear about this?

Cyberlizard · **Reply #1 on:** April 20, 2006, 10:52:34 PM

Oh my.

That's terrible! Why does something as brainless as a bear go around killing the most technically advanced specie on the planet! WHYYYYYY?!?!

Megatoph · **Reply #2 on:** April 20, 2006, 10:59:21 PM

who says where so advanced the human being is just as mindless what ever we dont understand we try to destroy it humans are also the most distructive as horrible as this is I realy dont see the humanbeing advanced.I dont like to badmouth my own species but it is clear that the bear was thinking the same thing but I am gratly disturbed that this happend has the bear been found?

F-14 Ace · **Reply #3 on:** April 20, 2006, 11:08:09 PM

No. Apparently they can't find the bear. In the article, someone scared it off by firing a shot into the air. Question: Why didn't the fool put a bullet in its head?
(ps: please put periods at the end of sentences. it makes it easier to read and understand.)

Megatoph · **Reply #4 on:** April 20, 2006, 11:09:56 PM

why hell why didnt some one tell me? Im sorry. I'll try to end my sentences more carrfully.

Cyberlizard · **Reply #5 on:** April 20, 2006, 11:14:39 PM

TITANOSAUR: You do have a point. With the way President Bush is taking us, we have the stupidest minds in the world. Most of them come out of really large cities, especially Los Angeles and Washington DC.

F-14: I don't mean to offend you on my opinion with politics. I hate both Bush AND Kerry. For me, it doesn't matter what party the candidate is in, it depends on the choices the politician makes. Is the candidate right for the job or not? I personally believe that Kerry was just as bad as Bush, I would have voted for Nader.

Petrie. · **Reply #6 on:** April 21, 2006, 08:03:37 AM

Bears don't just randomly attack a human. In fact, most animals are afraid of us, and have learned to be that way. What I wonder is what brought this on?

If you're going to make a political topic, make a new one so we don't have two different agendas in this topic.

Nick22 · **Reply #7 on:** April 21, 2006, 09:11:06 AM

The Bear was probably hungry(for whatever reason) and when the kid tried to get awaym, the bears predatory insticts took over. They still haven't found the bear.

Cyberlizard · **Reply #8 on:** April 21, 2006, 09:15:07 AM

Someone should hunt down that bear and shoot it down with an 8 gauge shotgun. That'll teach him.

Nick22 · **Reply #9 on:** April 21, 2006, 09:28:08 AM

If it is found it will be destroyed. The kid would have been fine if it hadn't tried to flee.

Cyberlizard · **Reply #10 on:** April 21, 2006, 09:35:53 AM

So it would really be the kid's fault for her own death, because she didn't know how to react to a sensitive, preaditory animal such as a bear.

Malte279 · **Reply #11 on:** April 21, 2006, 09:50:18 AM

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Someone should hunt down that bear and shoot it down with an 8 gauge shotgun. That'll teach him.

This would be more of an act of revenge than any act to save lifes in the future. Why is it that this one bear attack caused so much attention why nobody cares about the much higher number of people killed as a result of car accidents or the health damage suffered from toxic waste gas or the like? Should not according to the same logic according to which that bear should be brought down all car drivers brought down?

Nick22 · **Reply #12 on:** April 21, 2006, 10:04:17 AM

This is an isolated incident Malte, while car accidents are an everyday occurance. The media like to take isolated incidents and blow them out of proportion.

Malte279 · **Reply #13 on:** April 21, 2006, 01:54:21 PM

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The media like to take isolated incidents and blow them out of proportion.

And for that "reason" a bear has to be killed :angry:
It is for such blowing up by the medias that many threats are exaggerated and people are mislead to create much greater threads hoping to prevent the overblown first threat. It is for such exaggerations on a different level that some wars are fought.

As for that bear, it would be a whole different story if we were talking about a bear running amok in a densly populated area. But from what I read the attack occured in "the remote Cherokee National Forest Chilhowee Recreation Area" "[near] a waterfall pool on a rugged, 1,800-foot-high mountaintop, about 10 miles from the nearest highway." If people are wandering around in a National Forest they should be aware of the risks, should make sure that everyone knows what to do in case of danger, should stay near the frequented ways and by all means not take kids into a place where there is a risk of a bear attack in the first place! I do not see a cruel beast which ought to be killed in such a witch hunt as the one that is going on right now, but rather some very irresponsible and careless people who could have prevented this from happening had they shown just a little common sense! :mad

F-14 Ace · **Reply #14 on:** April 21, 2006, 04:45:03 PM

The reason it should die is because it is dangerous to other people. It attacked 3 people including 2 children, one of which died. Now would you want to go camping where there was something like that running around free to do it again? I sure as hell wouldn't. It is dangerous and needs to be shot!

Malte279 · **Reply #15 on:** April 21, 2006, 05:05:44 PM

I sure as hell wouldn't want to camp there. So consequently I would just camp somewhere else where there is no known thread of bears. I don't see why humans can't limit to save locations if it comes to that. The world is not just a human camping place.

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The reason it should die is because it is dangerous to other people.

I can name you a lot of things or people who or which are responsible for more human deaths than all bear attacks in the history of mankind combined. Nevertheless it would be considered radical nonsense if I listed those people or things with the demand to have all those people killed and things destroyed (and rightfully it would be considered nonsense). I don't see though why we are measuring with two different scales there. I still don't know what business those people had wandering around in that National Forest without any precautions. It is like walking in a bear cage in the zoo, a big cage admittedly, but that's the whole difference.

Cyberlizard · **Reply #16 on:** April 21, 2006, 05:39:28 PM

Malte's right, most people from big cities. These people are a cross between moron and tourist, we call them tourons for short and we get alot of those bozos from big cities in Yellowstone. One time two college kids jumped out of their car in Yellowstone and ran towards a mother bear and a cub. And get this, the thought they were fake!! Can you believe that?! There were people pulling over and yelling from their car windows telling those jerkoffs to get back in their car. Where I come from, bears are a part of life. And city-slickers don't take extra precautions because they take them for granted. They think, "We saw people fedding the bears in the cage at the zoo, so what will it do to us?". Zoos basically show us animals that are watered down to look cute and cuddly, but in real life those animals are wild creatures that don't know any better, and when you don't take extra precautions, you could be killed. The best thing you should do when you see a bear is wave your arms and yell, don't scream and run away. The bear's eye sight is poor, so they run away, frigtened by your screaming and waving your arms. That happened to me once when I was in summer camp two years ago.

F-14 Ace · **Reply #17 on:** April 21, 2006, 06:09:26 PM

The bear could have had rabies. If that is the case, it doesn't need to be there. If it has rabies, it is going to die anyway. Bears don't normally just come into a campsite and maul people like that. Since they didn't catch the bear, they have no way of knowing if it had rabies or not. This was in a state park, not just out in the wilderness. If the bear is dangerous to people camping there, then it needs to be terminated.

Malte279 · **Reply #18 on:** April 22, 2006, 02:20:25 AM

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Since they didn't catch the bear, they have no way of knowing if it had rabies or not.

I didn't read anything about rabies in this case so far. From what I read it sounded more like the natural predatory instincts of the bear were the cause for the attack. If it was rabies I think there would be no way around killing the bear to prevent the disease to spread.
However, suppose there is a human with a mental disease that will ultimately kill this human and before that he will be overly aggressive. Should that human be killed therefore?

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This was in a state park, not just out in the wilderness.

By definition a state park is an area of land preserved on account of its natural beauty, historic interest, recreation, or other reason. I suppose there are not many regions in the US which come closer to wilderness nowadays (unless you go to Alaska). If bears are dangerous to people camping there, than people just shouldn't camp there! Or else there should be a small fenced place for the people. I for my part value the bears right to live higher than peoples' right to just go and set up their tents at whatever unreasonable spot they choose to do so.
If a man lost his hand when tickling a mother bear's palate I suppose many people would still side with the man.

Petrie. · **Reply #19 on:** April 23, 2006, 10:33:25 AM

State parks have bears too. Around here they do. Just because its supposedly set aside for humans doesn't mean that they also prevent what makes it a natural park--that is, whatever creatures reside in it.

I hate blaming the victim, but in this case, I might have to, considering we've camped in areas with bears, and seen them. They've come within feet of us before.

You do NOT run from a bear. You might as well start praying if you do. Believe it or not, making noise will probably scare them away. Never run though.