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PlayStation 3 or Nintendo Wii?

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The thing that sucks is like Keni said Wii is so hard to find. I don't even have one, but I've tried it and it is cool.  :cry Cruse you Littlefoot1616 and Keni for owning one!!! XD (I'm only playing with you guys)


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Quote from: WeirdRaptor,Mar 24 2007 on  08:21 PM
I think nova may be a little bitter more than anything over something, his posts are more rants than valid arguments, actually. He has yet to actually give us a single shred of real evidence that he can show to us with his claims about Nintendo. No offense, but I can't take your stance seriously here, nova.

I've been playing the Wii for months and I have yet to even begin to grow bored with it. And most of people in my social circle have the same stance. Its not just a media hype machine. Its a genuinly fun console to play with. Of course, only someone willing to give it a chance would know that, now wouldn't they?  :p
Mostly im going by personal experiance and gut feeling and a little of nintendos fadish history. They also had some very inovative stuff to like the super game boy to play game boy games on the super ness. I had about 30 action adventure and rpg games for game boy all but one rarely played game worked great on it. I sold my gb once i got that thing. I loved playing games like metroid on it omg so much fun. only 16 colors but man so much better than green and gray heheh. They failed misrably on delivering other super nes add ons. They had memory expansions planned a hard drive add on and tons of other stuff planed for it. But instead they made the n64. Even with the draw backs or the cartrage based system it held loads of promise nintendo failed to deliver on. They got so cought up in the 3d aspects and how to show them off they hurt the games playability. Zelda 64 for example. In some places it was crazy hard just to change screens because the camera would flip around when you changed screens. So right after loading youd run right back through the zone border reloading the one previously.

Again possability for some amazing add ons again failed to deliver on that potential. I would love to be proved wrong with the wii it has tons of potential if they work it right it could be a great system. Hopefully unlike in the past they can deliver on that potential.

Sony has followed suit as well with the ps2 promised a hard drive and it does not exist not the way they intended. And the slim line ps2 what a idiotic move. It is now obvious even before they released ps3 that it is a end of life product.

The internet playable games for the ps2 numbered in the what a dozen maybe 15?

PS3 bleh over priced under powered computer want to be.Wii could turn out to be a huge success and i hope it is im just leary of nintendo and their past.

I think the reason we see internet conectivity on consols like the ps3 is they are afraid computers will run them out of buissness but they will not. They all need to figure this out or their shooting thm self in their feet.

As for buying wii if i get a good full time(ish job) i may give it a go. And that make you me thing looks like it could be alot of fun? Imm wondering how many hoices are realy in there and how close you can get to making a self portrait. I know it is possible to get acurate results ive seen sketch artist police software in action pretty amazing. That was a fair number of years ago when they demoed it at a local library. They had alot of people there checking it out and some were not your plain jane/jhon type of face. The officer working with it hit the nail on the head more times than you could count. So yeh i see its potential.


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Hm, I never had a problem with Zelda 64 by what you said O.o

Aside from the supposed Nintendo system with the help of Sony from which the Playstation originated from after the plan was canned, I don't know much of N64's history aside from the planned Commodore 64 add-on that was canned, so I can't say much about the N64's development background.

Me thing? Oh, you mean the Mii Channel for the Nintendo Wii, right? Yeah, it's a pretty neat feature where you create an avatar of your own. It's pretty fun, up to the point where Wii owners have made Miis from popular icons like Peter Griffin and Michael Jackson (They look incredibly similar might I add). You can choose mouths, ears, nose, eyebrows, eyes, facial hairs, basically everything to customize the Mii's face, adjust their position and size. The face customization is pretty broad. The only downside is that for now it's just face customization.


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Quote from: Keni,Mar 24 2007 on  09:29 PM
Hm, I never had a problem with Zelda 64 by what you said O.o

Aside from the supposed Nintendo system with the help of Sony from which the Playstation originated from after the plan was canned, I don't know much of N64's history aside from the planned Commodore 64 add-on that was canned, so I can't say much about the N64's development background.

Me thing? Oh, you mean the Mii Channel for the Nintendo Wii, right? Yeah, it's a pretty neat feature where you create an avatar of your own. It's pretty fun, up to the point where Wii owners have made Miis from popular icons like Peter Griffin and Michael Jackson (They look incredibly similar might I add). You can choose mouths, ears, nose, eyebrows, eyes, facial hairs, basically everything to customize the Mii's face, adjust their position and size. The face customization is pretty broad. The only downside is that for now it's just face customization.
Yeh me and my one brother always had troubles with it while my mom did not nor did my other 2 brothers. I think its because me and my one brother are more of technical players really concise movemnts etc. Very little in way of stoping just a smooth flow from on thing to the next. So we would tend to move the control to go foward hold as we planned to keep going. So when cam angle moved it made us walk right back in.

Heres a silly gripe with post ps1 consols. I hated not haveing large concise manuals. I can not stand thse little 20 pagers they have now hehe. Silly dvd cases just dont got the room for big nice manuals. I shudder to think what the ps3 wii 360 etc have lol


Corse its worse with computer games. Last pc game i bought had no darn printed manual only a pdf.....

I dont know i got a interview this week if i get the job maybe ill snag me a wii. Its a shocker but ive seen them in the stores here and no danger of not haveing a easy time getting one. Thats been a few weeks ago though so hard to say now.


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I had to go online for my Wii, and have never regreted getting it. :)

The idea behind Nintendo Wii is having fun with a game, which is what gamers really want these days.  The controls are easy because they are natural movement for the game you play.

If you know how to throw a ball, swing a racket, or even throw a punch, this should come naturally to you.  It is the kind of stuff people never get bored with.  Ever seen someone get bored of regular sports?  No.  You only see them get worn out or run out of time to play.

That's all Nintendo decided to do.  Offer a controller that's nothing more than natural movement.  And as of now, they're doing incredibly well with it. :^.^:


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I think what this all boils down to "personal opinion". I've had my Wii since February and I've only got a couple of games for it but that what I reckon makes it so appealing. The concept and gameplay of the system. OK, fair enough the whole swinging of the Remote can seem a little gimicky but it makes a nice change to actually get a bit of physical movement out of a console. On that note, PS3 have ALSO implimented their own take on the Wii remotes' technology. Use of gyro-technology (or whatever techno-babble they named it). Twisting and turned the controller to steer, point/aim etc.

The whole, "integrating work and play" thing is a concept that was supposed to be apparent. The idea of finally getting up out of your seat and getting more physically involved (for some people who manage to destroy the room they're playing in, maybe not TOO physically involved LOL  :P: ). The dance mats where brought about by arcade machines. It was only once they were such a hit in arcades that the games and hardware started moving to home consoles.

For me, it's the games that matter more so than the processing power of the machine or it's hard drive space. I'm not strictly loyal to a particular name coz there are so many games that span all current gen consoles. As I've said before, I will probably end up getting a PS3 but I'm waiting for the games that I want. EVeryone's got their preferences.

Both consoles have their pros and cons. Waht seems to be overlooked is the idea that Sony is a multimedia technological supplier. It deals with TVs, audio players, stereos, entertainment systems, DVD-players so with the PS3, they've looked to implimenting the newest technology available into their console to appeal to a growing market coz we all know Blu-Ray discs and HD DVDs are the new media format for video and are fast approaching. Given a number of years, DVDs will fizzle out like the VHS. There are reminents around, granted, but it's no longer mainstream. The only think that shot up the pricetag for the PS3 was the inclusion of the Blu-Ray player. Sony are appealing to a much wider target audience.

Nintendo on the other hand are strictly for the games and the gamer's market. Their target audience is a lot more defined and "smaller" (for want of a better word). Hence the reason why neither the Gamecube NOR the Wii had dvd-players included. What's a gamer want with DVD player? If the gamer was ALSO interested in movies then by all means; consider a DVD player. I have a PS2 but I dont tend to use it as a DVD player. I'd prefer to use an actual DVD player than my console.

The reason why I reanimated this topic coz I wanted to see the responses now that all three next-gen consoles have been unleashed. But it appears that the major player in all this really is nothing more than personal preference. Maybe I was looking for a deeper motive but that's all it seems like from what's been said so far (no personal digs at anyone ;) ). Interesting to see people's responses.


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The Wii rocks! It is probably the most advanced video game system on the market.

The PS3 overheats rapidly, costs way too much, and has to compete with two very powerful game consoles.


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With it now being the very week PlayStation 3 and Nintendo Wii finally coming out, and people finally going through all that back breaking working to get a few extra bucks, sacrificing so much, in some cases where some had only one meal a day, just to save all the pennies needed to buy the console you want, only one question remains...

Which one are you going for?

First contestant, the PlayStation 3.

This little beauty holds so much in it, you'd think you couldn't even lift it off the counter when you come to pick it up.  The PlayStation 3 is surprisingly light because it holds a programming part called "The Cell". This special part enables the PlayStation 3 to hold more information and do more jobs then ever known possible within an incredibly small space. (Recent commercial at Wal*Mart gave me this info.) If you have Broadband for internet access, then you can play against others from around the world the very moment you plug it in. The PlayStation 3 is always connected to the Super Speed Information Highway. Every game you play is in High Definition. Giving more detail in games then ever thought possible. It comes with the brand new Blu-Ray. Just like the DVD was to VHS and CD, the Blu-Ray is the next generation in video viewing and data storage. In a split-screen demenstartion, it is shown that the Blu-Ray gives out more detail then that of the DVD. You can also store digital pictures, DVD viewings and other little tibids onto the PlayStation 3's hard drive. Several games within the PlayStation 3 required a brand new way to play. A unique controller, with the tilt function, enables it more control functions to give you the best control possible when playing these unique games. (I do not hold info on which games those are, so you're on your own to find out which ones.) Plus, the PlayStation 3 is backwards compatible. Meaning you can play all the classic PlayStation 1&2 games. So if you want to get PlayStation 3, you might as well make a pretty penny off of that PlayStation 2 of yours. (Or in some cases, use it as a weapon to beat the crap out of the person who gets the last one on the shelf. ) With it being worth every penny of it's unbelievable $600 price tag, this gaming console gives gamers the experience that was never thought possible. For gamers everywhere to finally...

PLAY B3YOND


Geez! I think I sounded like an advertisment there.


Second contestant is the Nintendo Wii

Note: info comes straight from Nintendo Power Magazine.

Prepare for Launch

At long last, Nintendo pulls back the curtain on the Wii launch-date, price, pack-in title, and more revealed!

After months of rumor
, speculation, and message-board debate of apocalyptic proportions, Nintendo has finally announced official Wii launch details. The console will hit North American shelves on November 19 for an MSRP of $249.99. Each system will come with a wireless Wii remote and a nunchuk attachment, as well as a copy of Wii Sports, making it the first console to launch with a pack-in title since the Sega Saturn in 1995. Wii Sports is composed of five activities-tennis, baseball, golf, boxing, and bowling-designed to be simple and intuitive enough for everyone to enjoy, and to serve as a showpiece for the controller's unique functionality. Nintendo will also release The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess and Excite Truck on launch day (alongside a number of third-party titles), and expects approximately 30 games to be available by December 31. First-party titles will have an MSRP of $49.99, but other publishers are free to set their own prices (let's hope they follow the Big N's lead).

The other big news is that the system's interface-called the Wii Channel Menu-will offer a series of onscreen channels that enable a surprising variety of functions. The Disc Channel is where you'll go to play Wii Titles or backwards-compatible GCN games. With the Mii Channel (pronounced Me), users can create playable caricatures of themselves to use in certain games (though it's not yet known which games). The Photo Channel provides a way to upload digital photos from an SD memory card and proform various editing functions or even add music and create a slide show. When connected to the Internet via broadband, you'll also be able to access the Forecast Channel, which provides local weather updates; the News Channel, which lets users access up-to-the-minute news from around the world; and the Internet Channel, which allows you to browse the world wide interwebs if you download the optional Opera browser. There's also a calendar-based Message Board that you can use to leave messages for family and friends, or send text and photos to e-mail accounts or cell phones. Finally, the Wii Shop Channel is where you'll download classic games from the NES, SNES, N64, Sega Genesis, and TurboGrafx-16 for the Virtual Console. Nintendo has yet to announce the Virtual Console's launch lineup and pricing details, but that infromation should be revealed in the coming weeks. Needless to say, we'll have much, much more on the Wii launch in next month's issue. For now, mark your calendars and start saving those pennies; it's going to be an exciting November.-Steve T.


As for which I'm going for, I have picked the Nintendo Wii. Despite how cool PlayStation 3 sounds, I'm not going out and spending $600 for a gaming console anytime soon. Besides, I think I'll enjoy it's unique playing function more.

So, which one are you going for?
pokeplayer984 i think the nintendo wii go first then playstation 3 goes second


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I put my vote on "both." The only, and I repeat, ONLY, reason I included the PlayStation 3 is that my PlayStation 1 is not working right anymore. And this isn't even counting finances....


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Littefoot1616, you've made the most sense out of any else here.

PS3 advertement: "And it comes with DVD player!"

Me: But I already hav a DVD player, and a Hybrid DVD Player/VHS Player back home."

PS3A: "Uh...well, its also a computer."

Me: I already have a desktop computer and a laptop."

PS3A: Well, it has new games.

Me: They all suck thus far this time around.

PS3A: You can play music on it!

Me: I have a CD player at home and in my truck...

PS3A: Well, damn! Did we include all this stuff too late when most people would already have all the above or what?!
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I don't really have an opinion since I've never played either of them.  I got both a Nintendo wii and a ps3 from my aunt, but I returned them both.  I'm not too much of a gamer and I bought a bunch of computer parts with the money I got from returning them.  Gaming systems just make you want to spend more and more money.  You're spending $50 and $60 every time you go to walmart if you have one of those systems. :rolleyes: It's just not worth it to me when you can get 1gb DDR ram for only $25 and a 320GB external hard drive for less than the price of 2 games.

I did like the PS3 more though cuz I got more money from it when I returned it. :^.^:


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Wow, I'd be pissed if I was your aunt.

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I'm not too much of a gamer and I bought a bunch of computer parts with the money I got from returning them. Gaming systems just make you want to spend more and more money. You're spending $50 and $60 every time you go to walmart if you have one of those systems.
Nice, generalized statement. Got anything to back it up? Cause I've got plenty to refute it.
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Nice, generalized statement. Got anything to back it up? Cause I've got plenty to refute it.

No, this just applies to me.  I don't have a lot of self control when it comes to spending money, especially if it's a game.  At least, that's what used to happen when I got a new game system.  Before ya know it, I've spent over $1000 for stupid games that just go obsolete or get scratched in 2 years.  It would be one thing if they lasted a while, but it really sucks how fast everything game related becomes obsolete. <_<



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Wow, I'd be pissed if I was your aunt.

I call her for the receipt every time she gets me a game system.  I tell her I don't want that sort of thing, but she buys me them anyways. :rolleyes: I think it's because she doesn't know enough about computers to buy a computer thing for me and she doesn't want to just give me money.


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I voted for the PS3. I played some games on it with a friend of mine. I haven¥t got one yet, but he has. And it was amazing. Special the game Burnout Paradise and Call of Duty 4


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Quote from: landbeforetimelover,Dec 23 2007 on  04:57 AM
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Nice, generalized statement. Got anything to back it up? Cause I've got plenty to refute it.

No, this just applies to me.  I don't have a lot of self control when it comes to spending money, especially if it's a game.  At least, that's what used to happen when I got a new game system.  Before ya know it, I've spent over $1000 for stupid games that just go obsolete or get scratched in 2 years.  It would be one thing if they lasted a while, but it really sucks how fast everything game related becomes obsolete. <_<
I have a LOT of old 10+ year-old SNES and NES games that are still in working order today. I don't consider them obsolete at all. The technology and graphics in them may be dated, but timeless classics like Star Fox, Super Metroid, or Super Mario Bros. really stick. I still play the original Star Fox today, and I enjoy every moment of it. All of my 5+year old GameCube stuff (except for the GameCube itself, which isn't in 100% working order, but it still runs games) still works today. The CDs still work for the system. I don't know where you come from when you say game systems go obsolete so fast like that. Isn't that cell phones and computers?


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PS3 advertement: "And it comes with DVD player!"

Me: But I already hav a DVD player, and a Hybrid DVD Player/VHS Player back home."

PS3A: "Uh...well, its also a computer."

Me: I already have a desktop computer and a laptop."

PS3A: Well, it has new games.

Me: They all suck thus far this time around.

PS3A: You can play music on it!

Me: I have a CD player at home and in my truck...

PS3A: Well, damn! Did we include all this stuff too late when most people would already have all the above or what?!

Best thing I've read in this thread. :D :lol:  Really, the next consumer thing is a phone that can do everything as well....seriously...


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Exactly, Petrie.   :lol:   Oy, I'm perfectly happy with an appliance that just does the functions of its namesake.  :rolleyes:  All these dopes who keep fallling for the "IT-does-it-all" promises are going to get hit hard when their machine breaks down they lose their DVD Player/CD Player/Radio/Computer/Shaver/Leg Waxxer/Phone/TV/Game Console/Drink Dispenser/Dish Washer/clothes Washer/Clothes Dryer/Gun/Home Security System/Drum Set/Keyboard/Car/Bed/House/Garage breaks down and they lose all the above in one fatal stroke. The more random stuff you can slap onto a device that has nothing to do with its actual purpose, the better, it seems.  <_< Isn't the "more power" mentality what got Tim Allen injured so much on "Home Improvement"?
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he CDs still work for the system. I don't know where you come from when you say game systems go obsolete so fast like that. Isn't that cell phones and computers?

All electronics go obsolete very fast.  It's just not worth it to me.  I'm only into computers because I have to be for my job.  I'm not going to intentionally get something I know is going to cost me a lot of money (like a game system).  Buy hey, at least computers are upgradeable.  Maybe when game systems become more like computers I'll like them more.  As for now, a game system is not a necessity so I don't think it's a good idea for me to put myself into that kind of situation.  If everything was cheaper, I'd probably like it more.  I mean, god.  If a new movie costs $19, then why does a new game cost freaking $60?  It's gotta cost more to create a movie than a game.  How stupid is that?  Games should be like $10-$20.  No more.


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If a new movie costs $19, then why does a new game cost freaking $60? It's gotta cost more to create a movie than a game. How stupid is that? Games should be like $10-$20. No more.
Buying video games, i find, is more cheaper then buying movies. If i buy a $20 movie, it will keep me occupied for about 2 hours, then i'll put the movie away and probably never watch for a long time. Now lets compare it to the game Oblivion i bought for the Xbox 360 for $60 bucks. I've played that game for over 100 hours and i still have plenty to do in the game. I would have to spend $500 in movies that are 2 hours long and watch each movie twice to spend as much time as i have on Oblivion. The reason why movies are priced at $20 is because no one would want to buy them if they were $60, i know i wouldn't.
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I agree with Manny on the matters with games becoming obsolete. I still think the older games like Super Metroid are better then most current games.
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I've only had 2 games that have gotten broken ever and one was beacuse it fell out of my bag and into the box of my dad's truck during summer holidays. I found the game 2 months later.

As for my choice between the PS3 and the Wii, i would pick the Wii hands down, i've always been a nintendo fan and i don't think i'll pick any console over nintendo's, though i do like the Xbox 360 as well.


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Buying video games, i find, is more cheaper then buying movies. If i buy a $20 movie, it will keep me occupied for about 2 hours, then i'll put the movie away and probably never watch for a long time. Now lets compare it to the game Oblivion i bought for the Xbox 360 for $60 bucks. I've played that game for over 100 hours and i still have plenty to do in the game. I would have to spend $500 in movies that are 2 hours long and watch each movie twice to spend as much time as i have on Oblivion. The reason why movies are priced at $20 is because no one would want to buy them if they were $60, i know i wouldn't.

Although a video game can generally keep you occupied longer than a movie can (unless  it sucks of course), it still doesn't cost them any more to make the disks on a game than a dvd movie and it costs them less to make the game itself.  Think about it.  It doesn't matter how long it'll keep you occupied to them, they just want as many customers as possible.  I don't care if the game keeps you entertained for a month, they still shouldn't be so darned expensive! :bang Then maybe we all could feel okay playing games, but no.  They're so greedy that they want to make 60 million off the game.  They wouldn't be happy with 30-40million, no.  Those greedy...... :angry: