American history game

Nick22 · **Reply #700 on:** March 17, 2009, 04:10:46 PM

It requires 3/4ths of the states to approve, or at least 38 states, in addition to 2/3rds of both houses of Congress.. So its not easy to amend or repeal ammendments to the Consitution..

Malte279 · **Reply #701 on:** May 08, 2009, 04:57:20 AM

To stop this game from getting forgotten I just post the next question (borrowing in part from some of the stuff I'm working with at the moment for my university papers).
Which event (and aftermath of the event) during the American Civil War put a great strain on the relationship between born-Americans and and Americans who had immigrated from Germany?
One hint, it got to do with the falling of a stonewall.

Nick22 · **Reply #702 on:** May 21, 2009, 12:08:11 AM

Would that be refering to the death of Stone wall Jackson?

Malte279 · **Reply #703 on:** May 21, 2009, 03:28:03 AM

That would be the hint.
And what was the event? Why did it strain the relationships between the born-Americans and German immigrants?

Nick22 · **Reply #704 on:** May 21, 2009, 03:33:28 PM

Was that the battle of Chancelorville?

Malte279 · **Reply #705 on:** May 21, 2009, 05:29:12 PM

That's the battle where Stonewall Jackson was killed. Why did it influence the relationship between Americans and German immigrants?

Nick22 · **Reply #706 on:** May 21, 2009, 05:31:33 PM

is it because they blamed Jacksons death on German immigrant?

Malte279 · **Reply #707 on:** May 21, 2009, 05:34:57 PM

No. Jackson's death had nothing to do with that strain on the relationship between Americans and German immigrants. I just included him as a hint without which the question probably would have been too difficult.

Nick22 · **Reply #708 on:** May 23, 2009, 01:43:23 AM

I'm drawing a blank otherwise so I'm gonna need another hint Malte..

Malte279 · **Reply #709 on:** May 23, 2009, 02:50:02 AM

Look especially in the north for the reason of the strained relationship (the south wouldn't mind). The 11th Corps of the Army of the Potomac is of significance in the context (battle of Chancellorsville that is).

Nick22 · **Reply #710 on:** May 24, 2009, 06:11:02 PM

I'll look it up on Google..

Noname · **Reply #711 on:** May 31, 2009, 02:57:09 PM

Well, I DO know that a lot of Southerners were predisposed to hate German immigrants...

Oh! I remember now! The battle of Chancellorsville was a major defeat for the Union Army, and the 11th corp was routed by the confederates... and the 11th Corps was largely German-American, so the Germans were blamed for the defeat. I know that is something of an oversimplification, but that is probably it.

Malte279 · **Reply #712 on:** June 01, 2009, 09:52:36 AM

That's right

About half of the 11th corps consisted of immigrants among whom the Germans were by far the largest group (altogether more than 200 000 Germans fought in the American Civil War while the Irish (who usually get much more attention) were the second largest foreign born group with about 150 000). The famous flank attack of Stonewall Jackson in the battle of Chancellorsville hit the 11th corps first and in spite of many many warnings (ranging from Federal cavalry detecting Jackson's flanking march to large groups of deer rushing out of the forest before the confederates announcing their approach) the outflanked corps was no match for the attack though it was not routed completely and immediately as was later claimed in order to make the "damned Dutchmen" the scapegoat for the defeat. It wasn't helping the reputation of the Germans that two month later at Gettysburg they found themselves outnumbered, outflanked, and routed once again.
On average the German soldiers in the Union army fought about as good or bad as native born soldiers, but it cannot be denied that the Germans provided the Union with a dreadfully incompetent political general, Franz Siegel, who was adored by the Germans in spite of his utter incompetence.
While many Germans had hoped for their service in the Civil War to lessen the hostility promoted by nativist groups (e.g. the "Know Nothing Party" in the years preceding the war) the aftermath of the battle of Chancellorsville contributed to a deepening of the rift. Because many Germans assimilated more smoothly into the American society than some other immigrant groups they don't tend to get as much attention by the historians.
Anyway, your turn noname.

Noname · **Reply #713 on:** June 01, 2009, 03:51:20 PM

Okay. I have one. What event legally ended the U.S civil war, in as far as it was legally ended? It may not be what the history books often make it out to be...

Nick22 · **Reply #714 on:** June 01, 2009, 03:52:31 PM

Well, The Surrender at Appamattozx is widely considered the end of the war.. but the last Southern General didn't surrender until may..

Noname · **Reply #715 on:** June 01, 2009, 03:54:16 PM

You are getting close to the answer, but there are no specifics at all.

Nick22 · **Reply #716 on:** June 01, 2009, 11:10:25 PM

Does iot have to do with the capture of Jefferson dAvis?

Noname · **Reply #717 on:** June 01, 2009, 11:11:33 PM

It has to do with an armistice..

Nick22 · **Reply #718 on:** June 01, 2009, 11:12:32 PM

A hint please..

Noname · **Reply #719 on:** June 02, 2009, 12:04:53 AM

Heh. You're the history buff here...

Okay. It had to do with one of those generals down south, who did NOT surrender at Appomattox.