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yes it your turn Malte. Sorry for the delay...
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Which US state declared it's neutrality at the beginning of the US Civil War?


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I believe it was Missouri..
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Good guess (as one of the border states which was a particularly vicious theatre of the war with guerilla bands bringing forth such characters as Clarke Quantrill, "Bloody" Bill Anderson, and Jesse James).
However, in spite of all this Missouri remained officially in the Union. It was another state that declared its neutrality at the beginning of the Civil War.


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Then I'll go with Kentucky...the next Border State east..
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:yes That's right. The Bluegrass State declared its neutrality in 1861 and Lincoln was smart enough not to press the issue at that time (which almost certainly would have driven Kentucky into secession at that time). Kentucky never officially left the Union and Kentuckian soldiers fought on both sides throughout the war. In fall 1862 in coordination with Lee's first invasion of the north a confederate army invaded Kentucky as well. They were no more successful in mobilizing the Kentuckians for the south as Lee was in mobilizing the Marylanders though and the invasion was ended with the battle of Perryville. Anyway, your turn Nick.


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How long was Andrew Johnson Military Governor of Tennessee?
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From May 1862 to March 4th 1865 (the day of his inauguation as Vice-president. He had been nominated as a candidate in 1864, but that nomination did not require him to give up the office).


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correct. I did a paper in him in College.. your turn
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So did I at the highschool during my students exchange ;)
Which battle was, with regard to the casualty rate among the participants, the worst battle in US history? Almost a fourth of the standing army of the US was wiped out in that battle and most of the casualties were KIAs. The number of casualties too exceeds that of some other battles which have been much more thoroughly documented.

(One remark, I'm not talking of the Alamo here. Neither was the US officially involved with it (in spite of the number of American participants), nor did it wipe out such a large part of the US standing army).


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The Battle of Shiloh?
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No. Remember that the army was rarely as large as in the time of the Civil War. No battle in that time came close to destroying almost a fourth of the entire military (the reference was to the US military as a whole, not just to those soldiers who were on that battlefield). Also consider that the majority of casualties were killed, this may indicate something about whom the US soldiers were fighting in that battle.


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At first I'm thinking the Pearl Harbor attack, since it did devastate the US Pacific Fleet.  But I'm not sure if it was actually considered a battle.


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As for Pearl Harbor, even if one referred to it as a battle, it did not wipe out almost a fourth of the standing army, neither did the battle of Little Big Horn. However, the battle of Little Big Horn is on the right track so to speak. It is the battle I had in mind when I mentioned battles much more thoroughly documented in spite of the lower number of casualties.
The number of people killed in the battle we are looking for is about three times as high as the number of people killed in the battle of Little Big Horn.
Keep in mind that the smaller the standing army is, the "easier" it is to have a casualty rate of almost a quarter (this says something about the time in which the battle took place). It is really a US battle, so it took place after the war of independence.


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Now I'm guessing at this point.  The battle of Allatoona Pass in Cartersville, Georgia?


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No, that was a battle of the Civil War (which I said was not the war that caused this highest percentage casualties of the US army in history). To narrow down the possibilities, the battle took place before 1800 but after the end of the American war of independence.


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the Undeclared war with France?
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No; that undeclared war remained undeclared partly because losses were rather low. The battle I'm referring to cost more people their lives than the entire undeclared war with France. Had almost a fourth of the entire US army at that time been wiped out I don't think there would have been a way to avoid the official declaration of war. The battle took place before the start of the undeclared war, but after the drafting of the US constitution (which narrows down the years quite a bit).
The opponent in that battle (it was a land, not a naval battle) was not a European power. A small tortoise played a role in the whole affair.