Asking LBT production crew members for information

Sovereign · **Reply #280 on:** February 21, 2018, 04:08:52 PM

Yes, it was the wrong topic. Sorry for the mistake.

Anyway, here's the message again.

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Dear ...,

Due to the extremely long time it takes to make an animated feature film -- especially back in the '80s when many of the cels were still hand-drawn, we began work on the original LBT in 1985. Over the three years of development, many scenes came and went and some sequences were actually animated but later cut for various reasons -- most of which had to do with pacing.
In the very beginning, Steven Spielberg and George Lucas conceived the film as having no dialogue to keep it more realistic. As we worked on the story, we realized that it would be very hard to keep a young audience's attention without the characters being able to speak and show personalities beyond what we could convey through movement alone. Once we agreed that the dinosaurs had to speak, it became much easier for their personalities to take shape: Ducky's exuberance, Cera's stubbornness, Spike's laziness, etc.
There are two cut sequences that I do remember. One involved trying to show Cera's softer side so we understood that her bravado and toughness were a front to allow her to assert herself in the pack of guys. The sequence had her lagging behind the others when she came upon a flower growing up out of the cracked earth. She stopped, nuzzled it, sniffed it, reveled in it -- and then when Littlefoot turned back to look for her, she instantly STOMPED on the flower and kicked it away to keep from being accused of being "soft." Ultimately Steven felt that the sequence slowed the story down and wasn't needed.
The other piece (and somewhere in my files I have the original storyboards for this bit,) was a little comic relief involving a mama bird feeding cherries to her babies. The baby birds bobble and fumble the cherry knocking it from one to the other; it was just a light moment to go between all the challenges our heroes were facing on their journey. That, too, got cut because it didn't actually progress the plot and everyone decided it was better to keep the story clipping along for the young attention span.

Hope this is of interest to you and your group.

Best,

Stu Krieger
Professor
Department of Theatre, Film & Digital Production
University of California, Riverside
INTS 2122

As for Hypno's comment on the other thread, I, too, found that odd. I'm not sure if he's speaking of a similar scene than the one we have but it would be odd to have two such scenes in the film, though. :unsure:

Sneak · **Reply #281 on:** February 21, 2018, 05:35:57 PM

(reaction on answer is in different topic)

So, will we try to carefully ask him about if it is another scene, or even to publish these storyboards? >:3

Sovereign · **Reply #282 on:** February 21, 2018, 05:57:20 PM

I certainly don't think it'll hurt.

I don't think he would have mentioned those storyboards if he didn't want us to know about them. I'll try to present my answer here tomorrow and perhaps send it the day after.

Sneak · **Reply #283 on:** February 21, 2018, 06:13:42 PM

thank you! You rule!

Sovereign · **Reply #284 on:** February 22, 2018, 12:46:51 PM

Well, here's my answer to Krieger. I also added a question of whether he knows about other potential storyboards but I don't know whether we should get our hopes high on that one. However, is my message.

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Thank you very much for the answer! It’s really great to hear about the making of the film and we truly appreciate the bits of information you shared. In fact, both of the scenes you described were ones we’ve never heard about! However, we’d be interested to see, if you only are willing to share them, the storyboards you mentioned for the second scene as they’d deepen our knowledge of how that sequence would have looked like. It’s rather fun that there actually is a scene with the baby pteranodons in the finished film so were they intended to be a recurring comical relief? These storyboards are of incredible worth to us as they’re the closest we can ever hope of seeing what the lost parts of this amazing film actually were so I’d also like to ask if you have any ideas where some of the other storyboards of the cut scenes might have gone to?

If I hear your opinions quickly, I might be able to even send this today!

Also, Sneak, has there been news about your script?

Hypno · **Reply #285 on:** February 22, 2018, 03:14:01 PM

Perfectly done, as always

Sneak · **Reply #286 on:** February 22, 2018, 04:10:38 PM

Still hasn't script yet.

Well, still, I think scene with baby fliers sounds SO similar to scene we all know in the film, so I dunno, should we tell about it that we are so amazed to hear something we "have never seen before".

Just a thought. I think we should only carefully ask if these flier characters were supposed to be recurring, appearing between tense scenes of gang's journey.

Sovereign · **Reply #287 on:** February 22, 2018, 04:13:51 PM

I'm sorry if I was hurried too much but the message is already sent. Now, all we can do is hope for an answer... :^.^:

Sneak · **Reply #288 on:** February 22, 2018, 05:36:51 PM

But you wrote about hearing our opinion... Oo
well, ok, i guess. XD

Sovereign · **Reply #289 on:** February 22, 2018, 05:48:51 PM

Well, Hypno answered and to be honest, I seldom get major correction requests so I thought it was okay...

I promise to wait for your comment too in the future.

Sovereign · **Reply #290 on:** February 22, 2018, 06:40:07 PM

Well, that certainly was fast. This isn't the answer I was hoping for but it's nice that he at least answered.

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Hi ...,

Unfortunately, I do not feel comfortable sharing the storyboards because I don't own the rights to them. That's between Spielberg, Lucas, Don Bluth and the last thing I want to do is get in trouble with any of them.

Hypno · **Reply #291 on:** February 22, 2018, 10:03:22 PM

Well, that is understandable. I'm glad that he responded so quickly though, and that he responded at all again in the first place. Who's next on the list?

DarkWolf91 · **Reply #292 on:** February 23, 2018, 01:47:23 AM

Oooh, nice! New info! Though I feel like it would have made more sense for Cera to eat the flower

Sneak · **Reply #293 on:** February 23, 2018, 04:01:14 AM

Thank you!
These copyrights... гг Dammit, I want Sharptooth eat them all so people see storyboards... XD

btw, just got script. I"M IN HEAVEN

Sovereign · **Reply #294 on:** February 23, 2018, 09:58:21 AM

Welll... is there anything interesting?

As for Krieger's remark about the storyboards, I wonder if we should mention to him that Pudleiner released his own storyboards? At this point I don't have more contact ideas but I'll try to look for more soon enough.

Sneak · **Reply #295 on:** February 23, 2018, 11:01:18 AM

I don't think we should mention it to him.
JUst thanking for info about scenes and policies that don't let us see LBT scenes.

Hypno · **Reply #296 on:** February 23, 2018, 10:33:08 PM

The script discussion is for another topic (it is definitely a huge thing but we seem to have gotten a lot of answers about the first film than we could ever want) so why don't we try and ask a person who worked on the sequels if they know anything about deleted scenes in the sequels? And maybe they have some stuff to share like concept art (OR a script!?)

Sovereign · **Reply #297 on:** February 28, 2018, 03:53:31 PM

That could certainly be an idea.

Even though I fear finding the long-term screenwriters' or other leading sequel creators' contact info could be a bit difficult as most of them are still in business. I can take a look but do you have any ideas at this point?

Edit: My first look at the creators of the sequels wasn't exactly encouraging. A few of them are on LinkedIn but other than that, I didn't find too much at this point.

Hypno · **Reply #298 on:** February 28, 2018, 04:24:13 PM

Quote from: Sovereign on Feb 28 2018, 02:53:31 PM

Edit: My first look at the creators of the sequels wasn't exactly encouraging. A few of them are on LinkedIn but other than that, I didn't find too much at this point.

There were some creator's sites that I did find a few months back. I'll have to look again to see which ones

I think I had looked mostly at storyboard artists, but I had viewed other artists too, there could be some with contact info, some sites I remember being pretty filled with contact so I'll take a look.

Edit: Found one, Mike Sosnowski, storyboard artist for the second movie. http://www.sos-now-skistoryboards.com/my_storyboards.html
There is a contact link on the site.

Edit 2: Another, Robin Conover, storyboard artist for the sixth movie. http://www.animationtrainingacademy.com/robin-conover1.html

Edit: 3: Another, Llyn Hunter, storyboard artist for LBT XIV.
https://llyn.deviantart.com/
http://www.llynsplace.com/

Edit 4: Larry Houston, storyboard artist for XIV as well. https://www.larryhouston.com/
Also, Fred Gonzales, another XIV storyboard artist. https://www.fredgonzales.com/
Finally, Robert Sledge, XIV storyboard artist. https://www.freelanced.com/robertsledge

Sovereign · **Reply #299 on:** February 28, 2018, 05:05:42 PM

I searched for Sosnowski myself but apparently I should have looked harder. Those hyphens seemed to have ruined the search.

In any case, these are great finds Hypno. I'll certainly do the messages for some of these people in the coming days but should we ask anything else in addition to potential deleted scenes? I guess I could also add the normal question about the overall production of the films and if there was something memorable they'd want to share with us. Thanks a lot for these suggestions!