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Quote from: Ptyra,Mar 30 2010 on  07:56 PM
Remember that old dancing picture from last winter?
You mean this one? (colored version) Believe it or not, it was only about fourteen weeks ago that you posted that! :! It’s amazing how much your art style has evolved (and improved, I’d definitely say :yes) since then. :wow

Honestly, I didn't actually realize they were dancing in the older picture, :oops but here I can definitely see it. Pterano’s left foot looks pretty good (the middle toe of his right foot is too short). So does Ada’s left foot, though her ankle looks awfully thin. Pterano’s torso looks shorter than usual, making his legs look somewhat awkwardly long by comparison.

If Ada’s supposed to be smiling, I think the corner of her mouth should curve up slightly more. Also, I think her crest should be a little higher up on her head, and constricted towards the base (compare with this picture). And maybe her throat pouch (if that’s what it is) extends a little too far forward. Other than those features, however, her face looks fantastic. :D

Okay, the second picture...

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His hand looks odd, but it's supposed to be over his chest, so to look more theatrical =P
Was your intention to have his palm be over his chest? Because it looks like his palm is facing forward. Also, his thumb is on the wrong side of his hand.

Quote from: Ptyra,Mar 30 2010 on  07:56 PM
He's supposed to be kneeling, but I don't think I got it quite the way I wanted...BUT I LOVE HIS FEET :D !
You’re right. His feet look awesome. :smile Especially the one he’s kneeling on. I think getting that diagonal line between his toes and his ankle to match up to his heel and be distinct from his ankle was the trick. :yes And I’d say you did a pretty good job with the kneeling pose. :) This is classic Pterano right here. :lol

I really like how Pterano’s head looks in this image. (It might be a bit small compared to the rest of him, but other than that, his proportions here are very good.) My one suggestion would be to make sureówhen you color this imageóthat the outline of his left eye isn’t rubbing against the outline of his eyebrow. Ada looks quite good here, the one glaring faulty detail being that the corner of her mouth comes nowhere near near the corner of her beak.

By the way, congratulations, Ptyra! That picture of Pterano and Ada dancing marks the 100th art piece you’ve posted on this thread! :DD (This number includes sketches, revisions, and alternate versions.) So much for this thread’s subtitle. :p



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Fouteen weeks ago!? I could have sworn it was longer!
And I'm surprised someone counted how many pictures I made...really surprised. It feels like I made LESS than that.

Here's another sketch until further notice...a sketch that I am very scared to color...

Of the Gang, I think Littlefoot and Ruby came out the best. This is a scene from my fan-episode when Pterano realizes how tall Littlefoot has gotten in five cold times.


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Five years later.....Pterano has returned.


I agree. WOW did Littlefoor grow! he IS big.

And look at Petrie. His crest grew big, too. (I love how he rests on Pterano's shoulder, too, it's so cute :) )



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Oh, btw, the three parts I like the most in the appearance of fliers, is the crest, the beak, and the neck ring.


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Quote from: Ptyra,Mar 31 2010 on  06:07 PM
Fouteen weeks ago!? I could have sworn it was longer!
And I'm surprised someone counted how many pictures I made...really surprised. It feels like I made LESS than that.
Yeah, I'm not just your #1 reviewer; I'm your #1 fan as well. :p

Admittedly, I don’t consider this picture to be one of your best works. But then, to my knowledge, you haven’t drawn most of the gang in this much detail before, so it’s understandable that there are flaws. :yes Is the gang supposed to be older in this drawing? Petrie and Littlefoot, namely, are strikingly different in their proportions.

Here are my critiques for each of the characters:
ï Pterano’s beak is pretty rounded at the tip, and his eyes might be a little far forward. The lowest finger on his left hand also has a joint on the underside that makes it look rather strange.
ï Cera and Tricia’s heads are too small. Tricia looks pretty cute, though. They also appear to be the only characters here with visible ears.
ï I’d put Littlefoot’s nostrils a little further back. Maybe it’s me, but his head looks almost like a Tinysaurus’s.
ï Ruby’s beak should be deeper (almost as high as the rest of her head), and her crest should be angled forward, not backward.
ï Spike’s plates are too close together, and should be in alternating rows, not paired. His nostrils are also right in front of his eyes, when they should be closer to the tip of his snout.
ï I particularly like how Guido looks here. I would suggest showing at least part of his right leg (since he seems to have only one in this image), and maybe adding a couple more feathers to his tail.
ï Petrie is very cute (appearance-wise, he’s probably my favorite character in this picture, along with Guido), but he seems to be lacking wing membranes. :blink:
ï Ducky’s chest protrudes a little too sharply. She is also missing her nostrils, and her beak should have scalloped edges towards the front. Despite this, she still manages to look cute here. :DD
ï Way to go for giving Chomper two fingers! :smile



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Yes, the gang is supposed to be older :) . This picture takes place sometime after The Great Egg Adventure, and I think that the Gang should be having their growth spurts right about then...especially Littlefoot. I bet he feels so much less smaller now XD . I inked this in a sharpie, so that may have done a bit more damage, but this is indeed my first time drawing the Gang in great detail. Next time, I'm drawing them with references!

Anyway, here's one of the color pictures.

I had to move Ada away from the water a bit, once the two rocks behind her were connected (when they weren't supposed to be). And now, I just need an incredibly Pterano-ish song to fill in the rest!


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May I ask why you didn't include Chomper in that picture with the whole gang?

Also, just notice a little error in that picture of Pterano singing: One of his lower legs is smaller than the other one, almost as if he's got a mild case of polio.  :neutral

BTW, did you start working on those fanfics you were talking about? If so, and you have any parts of them up somewhere, I'd like to read go read them.  :smile


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Chomper is in the picture :) . He's hiding behind the rock. And for now, why don't we say the muscle of that leg is tightened :p ? I am horrible at making shaped even XD . But I'm working on it!

I'm still in the process of stitching my fanfictions together. The problem is that I'm not sure if I should do the young Pterano storyline as a flashback...and if so, which of the two should it be? The Great Valley Rebellion, or the one that does not have an official title? The second might be better, since the flashbacks and the story tie together. However, the one with the Gang is on here AND Deviant Art :)


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That's Chomper back there!?  :wow

I thought it was one of those crab characters... A sand crawler I think it's called?

May I ask why you had him hiding behind the rock instead of having him socializing with Pterano?


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Chomper was worried about how Pterano would respond to him. It's described more here
It's described more here


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This illustration looks fantastic in color! :D

And look! You fixed Pterano’s eyebrow and left hand! And Ada’s mouth, too! Much better now! :smile (I didn’t see Ada’s expression in the sketch as being anything special, but I love how her face looks here.)

I do have a critique regarding the foot of Pterano’s kneeling leg. While it still looks great, I think the line of his ankle should overlap the line of his foot, rather than the other way around (as you have it here). Also, Pterano’s lower jaw is very thin in one area, and the toes on Ada’s right foot have some overly thick outlines. (The toes on her other foot, however, are excellent. :wow)

I think the picture looks better with Ada in her new location, but I notice that you didn’t really give her an elbow (which had previously been hidden behind the rock). Also, that rock in the upper left-hand corner is no longer in the foreground, but it doesn’t seem to contact the ground or the water anywhere. By the way, there’s a tiny wedge of errant blue, surrounded by sand, at the bottom corner of that rock.

I really liked the sand texture you used in the star swimmer picture. In my humble opinion, you should have used it here as well, especially since you could indicate distance by increasing the fineness of the sand grains farther from the “camera”. Unfortunately to say, it’s a little hard to recognize the distance between Ada and Pterano (It may partly be because of that rock which was formerly in front of her, now behind her).

The sun looks a little big to me, and maybe too close to the horizon. The horizon itself is rather uneven, so the rocks in the upper right-hand corner appear to be on the same level as the sun. I have a lot of complaints about those rocks, I’m afraid to say. :oops Even though they are farther away than the island, the lines on them are thicker than those on the island, and they have fewer of them. They are also comparatively lighter than the other rocks in the image, which looks especially strange next to the excessively dark outlines of the island (which are otherwise good). In my opinion, the rocks in the left foreground have the perfect mix of color and outline shade (as well as very nice texture). Back to the rocks in the corner, I think they would have looked better if they had been between the island and the mainland, like some of them were in the sketch. Given their current distance from the viewer, the waves around them should DEFINITELY be less visible.

Wow! I didn't know I could come up with so much to say on one picture! :blink:



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Ha, I had to get to bed pretty quick, which is one of the reasons why the sand is less impressive.

Anyway, the dancing is done...and DANG have I come a very long way from fourteen weeks ago!

I was going to give Ada a night color, but nothing worked...I guess she's that rare character whose characters work during the day and at night.
I paid some homage to the original with the lighting effects. I had a moon for a short time, but it ended up looking better without a moon.

My water splashes aren't quite as great as usual and Ada's wing looks very weirdly postured, but other than that, I love this picture!


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Quote from: Ptyra,Apr 1 2010 on  08:25 PM
Anyway, the dancing is done...and DANG have I come a very long way from fourteen weeks ago!
My thoughts exactly. This picture is beautiful! :wow I REALLY like how Ada’s face looks here, her eyes especially (though her right upper eyelid looks just a tiny bit misshapen). And the lighting and coloring is spectacular! Admittedly, I do find Ada’s “night colors” a bit odd-looking, but as you said, it must be difficult to make them look good. As for her wings, well, they too look a little strange, but what are you gonna do? It’s one of the inherent difficulties of drawing flyers in human-like positions, and I didn’t think your solution looks too bad. :yes

I didn’t notice anything off about the waves myself. In fact, I thought the ones on the left looked, if anything, better than usual. Also, good move excluding the moon from the picture. Its out-of-frame position means that we can assume a realistic source for Ada and Pterano’s “spotlight” :p (which, by the way, looks marvelous :yes).

The upper line of Pterano’s mouth is kind of wavy, and the position of the reflections in his pupils make him look less like he’s making eye contact with Ada than he did in the sketch. His nostril, however, is greatly improved from the sketch, and you did a good job making his toenails pointy. :smile



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I've read your fanfic on Deviant Art.

Just a couple of points: I think you've mixed the names of one of the characters up. I can't remember which, but it confused me a bit there, at some point; but then I thought: Okay. She must've meant this one instead of this one.  :p

Obviously, Chomper's listened to the stories his flattooth friends told about Pterano, I'm not surprised at his reaction. I'm also not surprised at Pterano's own reaction to Chomper.

I've portrayed a grown up Chomper in some of my fanfics, and how I imagined the flattooths would react to him. I wonder how Pterano would behave faced with a grown up Chomper.  :p

Just so you know, I'm almost done my current fanfic, and I have another one planned immediately after that. They're all on fanfiction.net. I invite you to read them, if you haven't done so already.  :smile


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Was some of it Ducky calling Pterano "Uncle Pterano"? I honestly thought it would be really sweet if Ducky called him that, so then Pterano would be known as "Uncle" to more than just family (I honestly think that Tricia might start calling him that in later fan fictions)


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Annd now, I've got some more sketches!

For starters, a little "comic" a VERY short time after Ptyra and Pterano are reunited.

And thus Ptyra learns NEVER to leave her herd unattended in a strange place. I don't even know what Strut did to make the bees angry.
So, since it's hard to tell, Murel (Mussasaurus) has her head stuck in a log, while Crash and Gabby (Microraptor Gui) are stuck in the other end. Strut is being chased by bees and is right about to step on Topus (Saltopus) who fell in the mud. Then Theo (Corythesaurus) has a crab on his tail.
I probably won't color this, unless I do another version. A whole lot of this is not that great-namely Gabby in the log, Strut, Topus, and that crab. I will admit that I eventually started getting lazy with drawing the characters :/

A bit of Ada's storyline

My idea right now is that she was abducted, taken far away and had some of her wing taken off so she couldn't get back (It was also a good bluff to show that she was dead). While unconcious, she was rescued by a Quetzalcoatalous family (who were inspired by the Caecilius Iucundus family in the Cambridge Latin books :) ). I still don't know what happened in her abduction, but so far I know that she was taken and rescued. The patriarch of the family (Talous) is shown with Ada, showing sympathy for her. You'd think it would be pretty devastating for a flier to lose a wing...and for other fliers who have to watch her suffer from it.

And finally, a more cheerful picture, Pterano right about to return to the Valley.

I show him a bit older-looking and definitely thinner. In the story this scene will be in, he'll be planning a dramatic entrance and flying in like an impressive young flier...then going against it when he throws his back (Ooooo, old person joke)


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Funny comic. :lol Ptyra and Pterano are very well drawn in the...the little box in the corner (what the heck are those things called again? :bang). I like Ptyra’s expression in the main picture, although her mouth doesn’t extend far back enough. (And what is it with corythosaurs and sand creepers? :p)

The Quetzalcoatlus looks awesome! I suppose the neck could be a little longer, and maybe the beak a little longer and sharper as well, but it looks so good right now that I wouldn’t change it. The feet, by the way, are very well done. ;) And you did a great job making his expression look sympathetic (though his left eyebrow is very pointed). The major thing I would change is his left arm and hand. One of the fingers is crossing over the central finger of the same hand, with looks rather strange. And the claw on that finger is much blunter and more curved than the other one. And the inside of his arm, particularly the crook of his elbow, should look more like his right arm, which looks very good.

As for Ada, her eyelids are a little strange looking, and her crest looks a little longer than usual, but other than that, she’s quite good. I think you did an especially good job on her beak and mouth.

Pterano’s entire head, beak, eyes, crest, and all, look excellent. However, the raised area at the base of his beak (where his nostrils are located) should slope down at the front to merge with the narrower part of his beak (like in the picture of Pterano on the right of your signature), rather than having a square “cliff” sharply dividing it from the rest of the beak. Pterano’s right foot looks very good, though the toes on his right foot seem to be overlapping each other the wrong way, with the outermost toe overlapping the middle toe, and the innermost toe having a tapered tip that makes it look like it is being overlapped by the middle toe. A little editing of the toe outlines should fix the problem. Finally, the waterfall in the background should probably have the same width at the top and bottom.



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Nice pictures.  I especially enjoy the comedic first picture.  Thing you'd do any more comedic ones?  Hope you continue to post pictures and sketches here.


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Seems like someway or another, Corythesaurus are plagued with accidents with sandcrawlers :lol . I certainly plan on re-doing it with a bit more detail to the characters, though :) .

Well, some more sketchyness!

I'm doing a "fan fix" of Stone of Cold Fire...as if that complicates my other fanfictions enough (though, it won't be cannon with them).

A LOT is different, such as Petrie seeing the Stone. While it would be easier for Pterano to get the information of its location that way, he still ends up breaking his friends' trust (still not sure how, though). During the River Chase, however, Pterano rescues Ducky from her fall and abandons Rinkus and Sierra, who go after the Stone with Pterano's absence. Petrie chases after Pterano and Ducky, and then it leads up to a lot of emotional steam being let loose.


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“You lied to me, Uncle! You like to me and everybody!” Petrie shouted. Pterano shrunk back at his nephew's outburst. “You lie about EVERYTHING! All your stories are lies! Me no nothing about you now!” Petrie covered his eyes and hung his head. Within a moment, he was weeping. “Why, Uncle?” He squeaked. Ducky trotted over to Petrie and hugged him. “Petrie, do not feel too bad. He saved-ed me.” She said. Pterano nodded solemnly and moved closer to the youngsters. “He never saved anybody else.” Petrie sobbed. “Petrie...” Pterano began. “You can't just assume--” Petrie broke away from Ducky. “Littlefoot's grandpa told me what you DID!” He shouted. “He tell me all about the herd...and Cera's mama! The others too!” Petrie noticed Pterano flinch at the mention of the herd. “And it's right that he did.” Pterano said softly.
After splitting with Rinkus and Sierra, his intentions with the stone are FAR different than what he started out with. And there's a lot of development with it after Ducky is supposedly killed when she falls through the hole. The journey to find the Stone is longer too.

Annd more Ptyra storyarch! I'm REALLY not sure how to feel about this one. I LOVE it, except for Pterano's hand (above his head). Other than that, I'm not sure how else to feel. It's the only thing off to me.

This is the morning after Ptyra's hatching, so I guess that makes Grandpa the second thing she's seen.


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Wow! Both of these are really nice! :!

In the first picture, I’d suggest making Ducky’s neck a little longer, and her right wrist more distinct from the rest of her arm. I’d also try to make her beak slightly longer and flatter, with some scalloping around the edges towards the front (a reference would probably be useful). Right now her face looks more like Crash’s, with a rounded snout and protruding nostrils. It probably wouldn’t hurt to have her head a little larger as well. Overall, however, you’ve done quite a good job drawing her.

Petrie should be smaller than Ducky, and his head and beak larger in proportion to his body, but he looks so good that I wouldn’t change him. The fingers on his right hand are rather odd-looking, though.I can’t quite tell what his gesture is supposed to be.

Pterano’s right wing should probably be longer, his mouth could stand to extend further back, and his left hand is a little funny looking, but in my opinion, this is one of the best drawings of him you’ve ever done. The body proportions look spot-on perfect to me (particularly the legs; they look to be just the right length), and his crest and beak are practically flawless. I also love how you’ve done his left wing. And INCREDIBLE job with the feet! :wow

Quote from: Ptyra,Apr 7 2010 on  07:26 PM
Annd more Ptyra storyarch! I'm REALLY not sure how to feel about this one. I LOVE it, except for Pterano's hand (above his head). Other than that, I'm not sure how else to feel. It's the only thing off to me.
Hmm...what if you made his thumb (which is on the wrong side of his hand anyway) roughly the same length as his other fingers? Maybe it would look better then? The front of Pterano’s beak is a little squared off, but other than that, his entire head (and neck, for that matter), looks fantastic! :yes I like his expression, too. :lol And Ptyra is absolutely adorable. :wub :DD

Tybalt’s head might be a little on the small side compared with the rest of his body, and his left wing looks kind of short. (Or maybe it’s his legs that are too big. :unsure:) By the way, what’s that funny-looking pincer-shaped thingy in the background? Some sort of rock formation?



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