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As you know, the forum has been fighting spammers and bots for years. We have seen our fair share of "Custom Kitchens UK", scammy Internet hosting companies, and bots trying to send us to a business's homepage. But after fighting the tidal wave of spam for so many years, the admins had a persistent thought: what if the spammers are right? Not in terms of posting nonsense links and trying to scam our users, but in trying to make money through our unique platform?

Well, thanks to the helpful counsel of Taunt, we have finally decided to move the forum in a new direction. Please see his important post on the matter in this topic

Has anyone Ever been banned here?


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You mean from GOF? Yes, some people have been banned here. Ones I can think of right off the bat are nabil, mcr mad, and gloverboy.


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Yes we've banned people here, but the number of those is pretty small. and  we take pride in that. we pride ourselves on being a tolerant, openminded and accepting, and the vast majority of posters are well behaved..
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Although there have been a few legit members who have gotten banned for inappropriate behavior, most members who have been banned weren't people at all but rather spam bots.  I remember one bot that made a few posts linking to a couple of porn sites, but fortunately several admins were online at the time and were able to deal with the situation before it got out of hand.

nabil r got banned because he wouldn't stop harassing members about getting full versions of the LBT movies.  mcr mad got banned because he was constantly inconsiderate of other members and broke several rules.  I forget why gloverboy was banned but I'm sure it was for good reason.


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Gloverboy was banned because he was aggressive and rude to other members, including myself.


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If members getting banned ever gets out of hand, I demand we put example posts in the "rules" area.

The ones that have already been dealt with were bad enough. :(


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poke, we give legit members every opportunity before booting them. We don't ban people straight off the bat, in fact we rarely ban them at all. case in point.  out  of  over 300 posters who are currently members of this board, we only have three on the banned list, which is a percantange of well under 1%. Banning posters has not been a major problem here, and I don't see it becoming one either.
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What are you afraid of getting corrupt admins?  That'll never happen.  I've been part of forums who's admins had become corrupted and there's nothing you can do about it if it happens.  Admins can just change the content of posts to make anyone look guilty.  But this will never happen on GOF.  The cause of a corrupted admin base is an unstable individual at it's core.  Petrie is not an unstable individual and even if he did become that way, he's chosen excellent people to assist him.  I just don't see GOF's admin base ever becoming corrupted.

Trust me, if the narcissistic snakes over at Demonoid forums can scathe off corruption so can we.  Demonoid is a base of incredible amounts of money.  So long as money doesn't get involved in a forum there shouldn't be a problem.  Now if the admins started asking for donations then I'd be worried but until that time I don't see any reason to doubt the stability of the admin base here on GOF.


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I've had to edeal with corrupted .ineffective admins before. It aint fun.. one board I frequented- a Spyro board, had a Owner who had come to completely loathe the newer version of the games..and the series itself He eventually shut the board down over the other admin and mod objections, and the board collaspsed..
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I don't know any more about the situation except what you've told me, but from what you've said I don't see that the owner of the forum did anything wrong if he was in fact the true "owner" and founder of the board.  If you create something you have the exclusive right to destroy it or order it's destruction.  If my server or website got large enough for me to appoint other admins, I don't believe they would have the right to stop me if I wanted to shut the place down.  After all, I was in fact the one who originally created it...........


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Well if you don'rt want to run the place anyone, you can always turn it over to someone who does.,. I'd prefer that to destroying the board, over everyone's objections..as he did. As you can see the experience didn't sit well with me.. It didn't help that he called everyone who opposed his move " idiots".. in all it left a very bitter taste in many people's mouths..mine included.
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If you create a painting and dislike it while the people around you think it's the best thing in the world, don't you still have the right to destroy that work if you wish?  It doesn't matter if that artist could just not look at it ever again.  It was their work and if they wanted to destroy it I don't see why they shouldn't be able to, regardless of how others feel about it.

Perhaps it wasn't the owner who had changed but the board itself?  He might have believed that the board had lost it's way or had become warped/corrupted.  Whatever the case, I don't bear any ill will towards someone that terminates their own work, regardless of the circumstances.


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I think it was him, the board at the time was  pretty well behaved, it was a community, as message boards are.. I think any feeling that board was completely corrupted came froim an internal view. Maybe I simply can't grasp destroying what you built with your own hands and built a community on it, which grew as time progressed. I'm the type that would hand over my  board to a trusted person, when I felt like I could no longer do the board justice. The board would survive my involvement.. whether it lasted would be up to the new owner..
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From what you were telling me it wasn't that he didn't feel he could "do the board justice", but rather that he disliked the board itself.  Maybe I've just had too many moments of realization, but I can fully understand his feelings in this matter.  At the same time I understand your feelings and the feelings of the other members.  If I look at this from a personal point of view, I would be quite angry if Petrie shut down GOF but at the same time I could understand if he did it due to not liking the way the board was going.  I admit that I too have a biased opinion on this, but I'm just trying to get you to see the other person's point of view and at least have a recognition of the other person's feelings.


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And I understand that, and I think my personal feeling color my recollection of the issue.  I've run boards myself.. and I've had to shut down a couple. But I've never shut down a community that still showed interest in the boards.. the ones I shut down were dead anyway..
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Rest assured that at least 3 out of five admins would have to be "corrupted" for anyone to get banned as a consequence. We imposed rules not just on our members, but also on ourselves. A single admin may not ban a member (with the only exception of the kind of porno side spambots already mentioned above) but can only temporarily suspend a member until the staff has come to a decision. If there are less than three out of five votes in favor of a ban it won't happen. Those bans we have had so far were all unanimous and nobody has been banned without a previous warning and / or suspension along with a message telling him about which rule violations he committed and the urge to change that kind of attitude. If in spite of all that members continue to break the rules thereby harming the GOF the point is reached where, for the good of the community, the admins will make a decision about whether or not to ban a member. Apart from this regularized procedure we also take the individual case into account of course (e.g. how severe the rule breaks are, if other members had been directly affected, and if the rule breaks were conducted deliberately or possibly out of ignorance (no warning message goes without a link to the board rules though, so nobody who repeatedly breaks the rules can claim ignorance)).


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I think this other forum I'm on might have corrupted admins. They just banned someone for asking a question and she just joined the forum only five days ago just to get banned three days later.


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If it makes any difference, I was warned to shape up by the admins myself when I first came aboard.  I never got a warning posted to my account, but I was close! :! I have no doubt that if I continued my behavior I would've eventually been banned.  But the admins explained to me what I did wrong and were very helpful with letting me know how to change myself for the better.  GOF has changed me as well as changed the way I look at the world.  To be frank I was a conceited jerk and needed to be put in my place. :p I don't know what was wrong with me.

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My biggest problem was wording things....diplomatically.  My family doesn't do that at all so I never learned that skill.  My behavior was quite rude and I spoke my opinions with NO sugarcoating at all.  Needless to say it created.....problems. :p  :wow


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I'm alot like that in real life. I'm alot like that on the internet, when I don't restrain myself from doing so. I recently got banned from posting comments on a site for things like that. I got banned from a game forum for doing that. The list goes on and on. That's why I'm a bit dull when I post on the GOF. I don't curse (that's half my vocabulary in real life :() or say everything with my brand of..."honesty"...


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There's not much else for me to explain here.  We help people out and try to get them on the right path before banning is considered.  If that doesn't work, three admins need to give the go to ban.  That's pretty much how it works here.