WeirdRaptor's Lord of the Rings Adapt. Face-Off:

Kor · **Reply #340 on:** April 13, 2011, 11:36:35 PM

I guess most of that will be around the Beorn scene, or however you spell his name? been a while since I read the book. As I recall Tolkein glossed over but mentioned that Bilbo & Gandalf had some adventures on the way back to his home, with Beorn being with them part of the way. Doubt they'd have those scenes in the movie. I don't recall the details since I've not read the book in quite a while.

WeirdRaptor · **Reply #341 on:** April 14, 2011, 12:12:12 AM

Plus the eagles. Can't forget them. Though, I wonder if Jackson will deliberately make the animals speaking sound non-human.
He may try to go for a modified parate sound for the sound of Gwaihir speaking.
As for Beorn speaking in bear form, you just need a guy with a very deep, gravelly voice. I vote Clancy Brown.

Kor · **Reply #342 on:** April 14, 2011, 12:54:28 AM

Hopefully they'll pick an actor with a cool sounding deep voice instead of an annoying one.

Not sure how I'd handle the eagles. Keep the human voices or make them a bit non human.

WeirdRaptor · **Reply #343 on:** April 14, 2011, 01:36:49 AM

That would be Clancy Brown with the cool, deep voice. He was the voice of the Viking Leader of the pilot episode of Gargoyles and Lex Luthor on Superman: The Animated Series.

Nick22 · **Reply #344 on:** April 14, 2011, 10:09:03 AM

i'd just have them speaking. perhaps try and sneak in a voice from the 77 film among them as a nod (assuming any of those people are still alive). theres also the wArgs, who were not speaking in the trilogy but were in the Hobbit. having Gandalf throwing magically enhanced pinecones would be a cool sense. not sure if he'll include the singing parts by the goblins..

Kor · **Reply #345 on:** April 14, 2011, 10:38:17 AM

I'd guess not since I don't recall any singing in the LOTR movies I've seen, though I've not seen the 3rd one and it's been a while since I saw the first 2 parts.

Not sure if they had the "where there's a whip, there's a way" song that was in the 2nd or 3rd book, forgot which.

several versions on youtube. I found one at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdXQJS3Yv0Y

The hobbit had lots of songs in it also, like the one the dwarves sang at Bilbo's house.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gv1qnPAiSI

WeirdRaptor · **Reply #346 on:** April 18, 2011, 04:02:04 PM

Alright, I have the next part of the paper mapped out. It will begin with the hobbits on the road with Aragorn, obviously picking up right where we left off, and it will end at the confrontation at the Ford of Bruinen with the Ringwraiths being swept away and Frodo passing out.

Then part after next will cover all the scenes in Rivendell.

Nick22 · **Reply #347 on:** April 27, 2011, 02:26:17 AM

thats great Wr. hopefully you can have it up soon..

Kor · **Reply #348 on:** April 27, 2011, 02:31:01 AM

That sounds great, and you do very good work.

WeirdRaptor · **Reply #349 on:** April 27, 2011, 06:28:02 PM

Thanks. I hope i can get it out soon.

Fellowship Paper Parts Outline:

Next: Strider and Hobbits slumming it ont he road.
After: Rivendell
Then: Fellowship on the Road, ending with them entering Moria.
Then: Fellowship in Moria, ending with them entering Lothlorien.
Then: The Fellowship is taken to Lady Galadriel, ends when they leave.
Then: Fellowship on the river, will probably end with the end of the movie.

Six or seven (probably six) more parts of Fellowship, then I can begin writing about The Two Towers. Fair warning, some of the creative decisions Jackson made in TTT have been known to bring on levels of rage in me almost on par with what Bakshi did. However, he later made up for it in The Return of the King.

Nick22 · **Reply #350 on:** April 27, 2011, 07:40:49 PM

thats fine WR. TTT is widely conbsidered the weakest of the trilogy, although it did get six Oscar nominations.

Kor · **Reply #351 on:** April 28, 2011, 12:34:40 AM

Sounds like a good outline.

It makes sense that the middle of a trilogy is often pretty weak. Though that does not have to be so.

WeirdRaptor · **Reply #352 on:** April 28, 2011, 09:05:41 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2m2x8qJcGQ Has anyone seen this?

Nick22 · **Reply #353 on:** April 28, 2011, 09:54:12 PM

looks really cool.. i'm really excited for the film..

Nick22 · **Reply #354 on:** April 28, 2011, 10:10:22 PM

the LOTR geek isn me is pumped for the film to be made, seeing the sets , hearing the score and see Sir Ian complain about his nose

i can't wait for December 2012. its going to be EPIC. then of course Wr we can expect you to pick it apart like you;'ve done so well to date on the trilogy..

Kor · **Reply #355 on:** April 28, 2011, 11:22:58 PM

Thanks for the link. Just watched it. It was neat. Think I"ll download it so I can watch it at my leasure again in the future. I do wonder if these will be extras on the dvd/blu-ray or not. I also wonder if the movie will come out on dvd & blu-ray or just blu-ray. I also assume he'll do like before and put out the theatrical version, them a certain number of months later put out the extended version.

WeirdRaptor · **Reply #356 on:** April 29, 2011, 01:01:01 AM

I'm hoping they won't have to release an extended version. The Hobbit is short enough that they literally just put what was written on film without leaving anything important out. One two hour and forty-five minute-to-three hour movie would be enough to cover the stuff the book, easily.

This is why the White Council business worries me. They have a full movie aleady sitting there in front of them. Bilbo finds the Ring. Nothing about the Necromancer can top that and hope Jackson realizes it. My worse fear about this is something from Bilbo's story getting swept under the carpet to make room for things that never occurred in the book.

Of course, this is an entirely biased opinion. The Hobbit was the very first book without big letters compromising a few sentences put to a picture on every page that I ever read. Tolkien was my very, very first real literary experience, ever. Needless to say, I'm very particular about how well it gets adapted.

Kor · **Reply #357 on:** April 29, 2011, 11:30:50 AM

I think with just what's in the hobbit there should be enough for 2 feature length movies. Though I guess Jackson may want to show what Gandalf was doing when he kept leaving the group.

WeirdRaptor · **Reply #358 on:** April 29, 2011, 02:51:27 PM

That'd be fine, but this is Bilbo's story. Not Gandalf's.

Kor · **Reply #359 on:** April 29, 2011, 04:17:59 PM

True. To tell Gandalf's story would be different. Though Tolkien did not write that sort of story.