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WeirdRaptor's Lord of the Rings Adapt. Face-Off:

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So whenever you get time Wr, you can post your story. also any Hobbit news will be appreciated
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I don't have any news, but I have pics of Martin Freeman as Bilbo:





The dwarves:

Oin and Gloin:



Thorin:



Fili and Kili:



Balin and Dwalin:



Bifer, Bofer, and Bomber:



Dori, Nori, and Ori:



Ian McKellen as Gandalf:



Freeman as Bilbo looks spot on. I'm not too keen on some of the dwarf designs, but at least they're trying like no one else's business to make sure we can't get them confused for one other. McKellen looks great, as always.
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Thus movie seems pretty good. I might see the movie when it comes out.


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It does seem to be pretty good so far.   One change is they are having Radgast the brown in the hobbit movies.  I don't recall him being in the hobbit, though it's been a long time since I"ve read the book.  I recall him being mentioned around the time when Galdalf is first talking to Beorn I think it is.  Or whatever that guy's name is who can turn into a bear.


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He isn't in the Hobbit, but he had a seat in on the White Council, which Elrond, Galadriel, Gandalf, Saruman, and others will also be attending to oust the Necromancer.
"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf


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That was my thinking.  That the roughly 1/3 or half the movie may be the white council and what they were doing, including Gandalf while he was away from the dwarves and Bilbo.


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Radagast is mentioned in the bok as Gandalf's cousin. Ans Beorn says hes not a bad sort as wizards go..and did I mention I'm pumped to see these films. Since they can give James earl Jones an honorary Oscar for his work, shouldn't they give a few to Serkis and Lee for thier accomplishments? Serkis really took motion capture to a new level with Gollum and lee only has been acting for over 60+ years and played everyone from Dracula to Sherlock holmes.
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Hear hear! Almost finished with the next part. I'll end with them entering Moria.
"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf


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and is thorn holding Orchrist/ I think he is/ in the book the three elvish swords are glamdring (gandalf's) orschist(Thorin0 and Sting. The golcins called the first two beater and biter and hated them both.
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As I recall Sting wasn't named till Bilbo was using it to fight the giant spiders of Mirkwood.  

Which I've read some debate if they are decedents of the maia who was in spider form who poisoned the 2 trees, forgot her name (or his name).  Some have also debated if Shelob was a descendant also.

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Sounds good WeirdRaptor, no need to hurry.


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Ungoliath, you are refering to Kor. she did indeed poison to the twin Tres on Lorgoths order
 Shelob was a descendant of hers..Tolkiens mentions it at the end of the Two Towers and sh e was relasted to ungoliath
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ok, I wasn't sure if I had read it in one of Tolkien's books or elsewhere.  I thought I had read it in a book.  It's been a long time since I've read any of Tolkien's books.


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Yep, I would bet that's Orchrist Thorin is brandishing in the photo.

Oh, believe me, guys, I'm not hurrying. Speaking of this paper, though, a friend of mine asked me if this will be extending to any video game adaptations. I told him no, because I once considered the option. Then I looked up how many exist... Oh dear, I would be an old man by the time I finished rambling about them all.

However, here's a review of the GameBoy Advance game I bought back in 2001 that I posted on Amazon.com right after I managed to complete the damn thing:

This game is an abomination and I regret every cent of the thirty dollars I spent at the Wal-Mart. I've played and beat this game through trial and (t)error, because I beat every game I bought so my purchases wouldn't go to waste.

The Story: 6/10, because it manages to faithfully follow the book even moreso than the films despite failing in every other regard. Despite this, there are so many sidequests and little extra objectives they will enforce on you that you willl forget the plot in due time.

The Graphics: 3/10, they serve their purpose, but not much else. Just look at the above video. The on-screen avatars are bland and plain and the character portraits are hideous beyond measure. Everything looks jagged. Frodo looks like a blob with a brown dot for hair. The characters never move when in cut scenes at all, so the that sucks all the life out of a great story.
On top of that, everything in the backgrounds looks identical, right up to the forests, towns, and interiors, save for Rivendell.
These look like graphics from either a later on NES game or a very early on Super NES game, but given that the Gamecube, PS2, and X-Box all have 128 bit graphics and handhelds are capable of much more than 16-Bit these days, this is just unacceptable.
Only ever play this on the Gamecube, as it's the only way everything will be big enough for you check what's going on without straining your eyes. There is NO detail put into the graphics at all.

The Sound: 2/10, you get repetitive, unobtrusive sounds and effects. The music is not memorable. Of course, that's only whenever it chooses to function, which is like only a quarter of time.

The Gameplay: 1/10, serviceable at best, unreliable and glitchy at worst. That this game was never playtested was obvious, and here's why:
The gameplay was terrible all on it's own WITHOUT the bugs, but they just make it worse. Your character, no matter who it is, moves like a turtle and there's no way to speed him up. The RPG system is useless. Your character will almost always miss your enemy whereas your enemy will almost always hit you. The battles require no strategy, other than pure determination, to win. Even the simplest battles can take 5-10 minutes to win.
Oh, and the leveling system is non-existant. You only ever level at a few set points in the game, but it barely makes a difference. You will spend this entire game under-leveled no matter what you do. In fact, I would recommend staying away from battles as much as you can, because you can't carry much money, and your supply space is also very limited. Just muscle through and take only the necessary actions if you ever want to see the end.
Want more?
All that said, this is turned based style.
-Legolas is an archer, right? Well, he almost always misses with arrows. He's better with a sword in this game.  
-As stated, when you win a battle, do not get experience. You also don't get money or items.  
-You will waste most of your healing items in a single battle and then have to go back to get more, but first you'll have to hunt up more money.
-You have two types of enemies per level. Usualy 3-5 of them in a party.
-Don't even get me started on the clunky item system and item sharing system for the party. It's too bad for words, and in this game when I say it's too bad for words...
-This game also has puzzles. PUZZLES!  The puzzles are as glitched, buggy, and frustrating as the rest of this joyless mess.

The bugs...oh God, the BUGS!

-Several times during battles, a character would walk up to an enemy and pass right through them and get stuck. I would have to reset the game. Invisible obstacles also run rampent in this game.
-Sometimes, you need to reset the game just to pick up objects.
-The game will sometimes lock up or crash without rhyme or reason at random times. It once fried my GameBoy when it did that.
-In Rivendell, and this one's a real kicker, they had this little quest for the elves took Gimli's ax and in order to progress, you had to get it back to him. Well, I had to reset the game several times because when I finally got the ax to him, the "Give" command wouldn't function right! So I ended up having to restart the game from the beginning and get back to Rivendell...three times, to get it to work. On the third try, I somehow miracled the ax into Gimli's inventory and was at last able to progress to the Mines of Moria. I wept. Then I began to laugh maniacally, but it started with tears.
-Then in Moria, I walked out of one room and got stuck when the next room appeared. I reset and it happened again. I accidentally discovered how to get past that point. I saved my game accidentally right when the room I was exiting started to fade, and then it let me move on.  Doing this might also ruin your saved game, though.
-One time, the game loaded a random encounter, but it forgot to load enemies onto the field.
-I repeat, this stupid game once ruined my GameBoy!

Length and Difficulty: 3/10 Believe or not, it's not long game. The bugs, overpowered enemies, and unfair RPG system, however, will make the experience at least four times the length than if you had been able to just get through it without them getting in your way. I am not exaggerating in the slightest. In fact, I think I'm giving it a faintly conservative estimate. If you're determined enough, you will beat the game, but it ain't worth it.

The Controls: 1/10 As responsive as a person in a coma. The gameplay is as stock and common as it comes, so you wouldn't think they could botch it. The creators evidently took that fact as a challenge and made it unresponsive and unreliable as all hell. Add on the unfair RPG system, and you get one pathetic joke of a game, and the joke's on you.

Final Verdict: 2.7 Show stopping bugs and a crappy RPG System drag an already terrible game down to the deepest pits of Hell! THis game was not fit for release, but they did it, anyway. And yet, I still feel like I have not said enough about this horrid mess.

Replayability? ...You're kidding, right? It was like my own private hell the first time. The only reason I replayed this accursed thing so many parts several times is because I can't afford to let game I purchase go to waste.

Hope that tides you over.
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so you're saying this game completely blows/ ands its gameboy which i almost never play unless i'm completely and utterly bored. the screen is really too small for me to see very well , (bad eye you know) I prefer the Gamecube or Ps3..
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Oh yeah. Unfortunately, this all happened back before I knew the rule of licensed games (they almost always suck).
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yeah, for every game theres cheap knockoffs.. look at ET. they had about a week to make the game before the movie came out and it showed..
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I found a video on youtube that has some gameplay of the GBA 2 towers for those curious as to what the game looked like.  


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJH6Q-wruHY&

It does seem most licensed games are very bad.


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Now the LotR Two Towers and Return of the King games were acceptable, because they were simple hack and slashes. They weren't particularly ambitious, but the game programers at least did them right. In fact, I think the GBA Hobbit, TTT, and RotK games are just about the only three good Tolkien-based games ever made.
The GBA Hobbit game played basically like an old school over-the-head view Zelda game.
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