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Dilopho

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What is strange here?
The cut movie is 69 minutes long at that is what you can read on old VHS shells.


Justin1993

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This is getting rather more and more difficult to explain. I ordered a copy of the movie that is supposedly a 1989 copy. That's what the seller said. I'm hoping that the statement is true and if so, that it will shed more light on the situation.
Edit: I just re-read your post Dilopho. If by shell you mean a clamshell case, that would be a later release. The original '89 release came in the cardboard cover. I remember as a child my grandparents had the tape with the cardboard cover. I'm in the business of trying to see if she can find it somewhere. If she kept it. It was a long time ago.


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I understand what is going on. Rumors have it that the full movie is eighty minutes long. And Justin stated a few posts ago that it was seventy three minutes long. And the member that said the full movie is eighty minutes long is Pikk.


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Quick note from me: I did a quick collate of the various Deleted Scene stills that are peppered throughout this thread, so that we don't have to trawl through the archives to see or reference them.

Quick Collate


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Quote from: Justin1993,Jul 24 2011 on  02:38 PM
Edit: I just re-read your post Dilopho. If by shell you mean a clamshell case, that would be a later release. The original '89 release came in the cardboard cover.

I mean all these kinds.



@Almaron

You forgot this scene:



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^ That scene doesn't look right. According to it, Cera and Littlefoot ran back up the slope they slid down when following the frog. Which, to me, actually makes more sense then the thorns, if you go back and look at the scene. The thorns just randomly appear and the slope disappears. Basically, the whole surrounding changes.


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Okay I saw all the pictures in your denviart. And ah thanks for doing that. Makes it very easy for us now. Yeah I have noticed that. IT's a accident than. Or a error in there part.


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I don't think the scene was an accident. Maybe a part that was reworked.


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For me the scene makes sense. Sharptooth comes from the left, also in the cut version, and they try to escape the path on the right side to reach Littlefoot's mother. And because they are not able to climb the hill they then took the other way through the thorns.

This scene is from the Search for the GV book, were you can also find some of the other pictures.





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These are all of the cut scenes I could find. I know many of them have been covered before, but I really wanted to make a list of them.

Beggining Longnecks Scene-
One still from the Collectors Edition Laserdisk and another frame show that the scene with the Longnecks at the start of the movie was slightly longer, or at least edited.

Littlefoot Hatching Scene-
One still from the Collectors Edition Laserdisk shows that when Littlefoot hatched and looked at the viewers, the background was slightly different, Littlefoot was farther to the left, it was slightly brighter, more zoomed out, and plants with water dripping off them could be seen behind Littlefoot.

Baby Littlefoot and Cera Scene-
Nothing really known about this scene, except for one frame on an uncolored background, where Cera and Littlefoot are looking at something. They look quite a bit younger than they did in the film. It could be a fake.

Grandpa Longneck Getting Branch Scene-
One still from the Collectors Edition Laserdisk shows that when the screen transitioned to Littlefoot being older, Grandpa Longneck is seen grabbing a branch from a tree, whereas in the cut version he is seen holding it already when the screen transitions.

Cera and Sisters Playing Scene-
One still from the Collectors Edition Laserdisk shows Cera's three sisters playing while one of her parents looks on. Cera is shown running back to her parent and her sisters are shown laughing. Possibly an extended part of Littlefoot meeting Cera, or Cera's birth.

Sharptooth Water Splash Scene-
On an old commercial for the movie, it shows a scene where Littlefoot and Cera are pushed onto Sharptooth's foot by a wave of muddy water. It is supposedly a cut part of the thorn chase scene.

Sharptooth Thorn Chase Scene-
There was most likely a extended chase scene with the thorns and Sharptooth, where he trys to bite Littlefoot and Cera while they ran through the thing they were playing near in the water. A still of it can be seen on the Laserdisk and the book shown above.

Sharptooth Looking For Kids Scene-
One still from the Collectors Edition Laserdisk shows that when Sharptooth first loses Littlefoot and Cera, he can be seen moving his head towards the thorns slightly longer than in the cut version. His eye also slightly opens in this scene.

Sharptooth Falling Scene-
One still from the Collectors Edition Laserdisk shows that when Sharptooth is falling and trying to bite Littlefoot and Cera his whole face is shown, whereas in the cut version only about half of his snout is showing.

Littlefoot Running To Mother Scene-
Two stills from the Collectors Edition Laserdisk shows Littlefoot running to his mother. This is the same as in the cut version except the rain is much more visible, more of it is falling, it is blowing slightly to the left in one scene, and it is a bit lighter.

Spike and Berries Scene-
The gang try to lure spike with berries, Cera doesn't want him to come. The scene was supposedly cut because of Cera being racist.

Waterfall Scene-
I used to think this was a scene from the cut original ending while Littlefoot was running to the great valley, but the waterfall looks exactly like the one near the stream before they found the oasis. The pictures show Littlefoot jumping up the waterfall and looking down from the top, smiling. Littlefoot possibly climbed up the rocks to look off the waterfall for green food.

Oasis Cave Scene-
One still from the Collectors Edition Laserdisk shows the characters climbing down the cave to get to the edge, rather than just appearing there.

Gathering Food Scene-
There was another part to the gathering food scene where Littlefoot, Ducky, Petrie, and Spike were doing things while eating.

Sharptooth Footprint Scene-
One still from the Collectors Edition Laserdisk shows a close-up of the gang after they get comfortable in Sharptooth's footprint. They can be seen in this position zoomed out more in the cut version, but the treestar is not there.

Sharptooth Chase Scene-
One still from the Collectors Edition Laserdisk shows the characters after they went through the small crack in the rock wall to get away from Sharptooth. Rocks are tumbling down and Cera is looking angrily back at Sharptooth. This scene is not in the cut version.

Walking Near Mountains That Burn Scene-
One still from the Collectors Edition Laserdisk shows a close-up of Ducky and Petrie below Littlefoot while they were near the Mountains That Burn. This is in the cut version, but the ash is much less noticeable and the background is slightly different.

“Tar Monster” Scene-
One still from the Collectors Edition Laserdisk shows the “tar monster”. It looks slightly different than in the cut version. The tar is more shiny, and the characters are more easily distinguishable, especially Spike.

Petrie Laughing at Cera Scene-
One still from the Collectors Edition Laserdisk shows that Petrie laughing at Cera went on slightly longer or was modified from the original version.

Cera Slipping on Tar Scene-
One still from the Collectors Edition Laserdisk shows that after Cera slipped on the tar the first time, she looked back at the others angrily. This was not in the cut version.

Going Back to Cera Scene-
A few frames show that they went back to the caves to try to get Cera to come back.

Ducky and Sharptooth Scene-
When Ducky is chased by Sharptooth she makes faces at him and then runs away with a look of terror on her face while Sharptooth leaps at her. Another frame shows a closeup of Sharptooth's face as he supposedly tries to catch her underwater.

Sharptooth “Death” Scene-
When Sharptooth falls into the water, a clear picture of Sharptooth sinking into the water with the rock floating slightly away can be seen. This can also be seen on the cut version, but it is much darker and less clear. The rock can also not be seen.

Petrie Alive Scene-
When Petrie climbs onto the ledge, revealed to be alive, the others (besides Ducky because she is running over to him) look back at him with surprised looks on their faces.

Different Ending Scene-
Supposedly the scene where Littlefoot talks to his dead mother in the cloud and finds the Great Valley was before he went back and saved his friends. This has some proof because when he is talking to his mother, you can see the rock they used to push Sharptooth down is still there in the background. After finding the Great Valley, he goes back to get his friends, and saves them like he did in the cut version. But he tells them he found the Great Valley (at the scene in the lake), and says they have to get rid of Sharptooth so he doesn't go inside the Great Valley. The ending where they look at the Great Valley is also different, as it has a different background, and no mom ghost.

We'll Always Be Together Scene-
At the end when Littlefoot holds up Ducky and Petrie on his head, it zooms up on him and he says “Now we'll always be together!” Then Ducky hugs Petrie.


Dilopho

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The closeup in the footprint scene is only an greatly enlarged picture of the same we can see in the cut version.



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Someone should either tag that post of Apple's or move it somewhere else, cause I think that's one of the most informative posts we've had about the Deleted Scenes yet! This sort of information needs to be set aside somewhere so that we can quickly refer and add to it as new information is found. Even if we never find the missing footage, we could one day uncover exactly what scenes were missing, and where they went, and somebody determined enough could redraw the scenes themselves (although redubbing would be an issue) and make a "remastered" version of the film.

I actually think this thread needs trimming, or perhaps this one needs to be retired and replaced with a new thread - I'm sure I've seen what are essentially duplicates of the same information repeated constantly through the eighteen pages, and I don't think people are scrolling back through the pages to read them, so things are just getting cluttered. This is one of the most important subjects in the Land Before Time universe, and it just seems scattered to me.

Alternatively, why don't we post our findings to the Land Before Time Wiki?

EDIT: Something's just occured to me...a few posts back, Dilopho mentioned that one of the stills that have been found shows Littlefoot and Cera fleeing in a different direction, and Apple mentions a scene where Littlefoot and Cera end up against Sharptooth's foot in the mud (Music must've changed though, cause I don't remember anything missing from Track 2 in that scene, and everything seems to line up perfectly...). I wonder if this was one of the Sharptooth scenes that was cut for being too scary - I know they're supposed to be a part of the battle scene between Sharptooth & Littlefoot's Mother, but perhaps people mixed up the two scenes? They are technically part of the same sequence. Alternatively, what if Littlefoot's Mother first confronted Sharptooth as Littlefoot and Cera fled into the thorns? Except...wait, no, that doesn't make sense at all. There's no evidence for that in the music, and it doesn't fit with the rest of the battle scenes.


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Hey Almaron, I posted a theory about the whole Sharptooth vs. Littlefoot's Mother scene in this forum. If you want to check it out.


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Quote from: Justin1993,Jul 24 2011 on  02:38 PM
This is getting rather more and more difficult to explain. I ordered a copy of the movie that is supposedly a 1989 copy. That's what the seller said. I'm hoping that the statement is true and if so, that it will shed more light on the situation.
Edit: I just re-read your post Dilopho. If by shell you mean a clamshell case, that would be a later release. The original '89 release came in the cardboard cover. I remember as a child my grandparents had the tape with the cardboard cover. I'm in the business of trying to see if she can find it somewhere. If she kept it. It was a long time ago.
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@justwatchinthevideos ive got that snippet in my version, i have 2 versions, thier both the same but the one has that extended scene, its nothing much realy, just them shortening the movie by a few seconds

found this in the comments of an LBT trailer... so you should be getting the extended scene.


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If this comment is from Youtube or some random guy then I wouldn't pay a lot of attention to it.


Edit: I found the comment, and yea when you ask him to upload it then he responds that he has sold it. This guy is untrustworthy to me.


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Someone on DeviantArt sent me this video - here - with possibly a cut scene at about five seconds in? Looks like the sequence we were talking about earlier - a longer scene with Sharptooth prior to them fleeing into the thorns.


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Yep. The part where Littlefoot and Cera are swept into the foot of Sharptooth by a wave of muddy water. Remember the muddy water here:

Could be that that little scene was part of a sequence after this.


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I think you're right Justin. I just got The Land Before Time: The Illustrated Story, and there is a part about the muddy water in it. The book says "Once again the beast charged, and once again Littlefoot's mother struck him down. His fall sent a huge wave of mud towards Littlefoot and Cera, which caught them up and carried them right into the jaws of the raging monster. Littlefoot's mother, realising that she would have to act swiftly to safe the two youngsters, bravely leapt forward and hit Sharptooth in the belly with all her might. The great beast went down with a ground-shaking force."

Looks like they edited out that part and combined Littlefoot's mother hitting Sharptooth the third time and him falling the fourth time.

P.S. I'm still going to compare the tapes, but the vhs-dvd converter hasn't arrived yet.  :oops


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"Once again the beast charged, and once again Littlefoot's mother struck him down. His fall sent a huge wave of mud towards Littlefoot and Cera, which caught them up and carried them right into the jaws of the raging monster.
Could be. Although the book may have changed it up a bit, since the wave sent them crashing into his foot and not his jaws. And it's okay about the side-by-side viewing. No rush  :)