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Re: Asking LBT creators for information
« Reply #340 on: January 04, 2019, 05:34:49 AM »
This is a great answer, thanks for reaching out to her and sharing with us Sovereign! This is really cool :D

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« Reply #341 on: January 04, 2019, 10:23:46 AM »
Thank you for your kind words everyone! :) Indeed, Hunter broke the ice on many issues about the sequels that have puzzled us for a long time. I thought that we could ask her more closely about the deleted scene and of other ones that were close to being animated.

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Thank you very much for your insightful and thorough answer, Ms. Hunter! The bits of knowledge you shared have sparked a lot of interest on our site and indeed, we appreciate the time and effort you put into answering as many of my questions as possible. It really means a lot to me and to our other members as it is more than helpful to help us understand more about JOTB’s development.

Of special interest to me was the point where you spoke of the deleted ribcage scene as it is these deleted scenes are the exact kind of stuff we have wanted to know about LBT films. You mentioned that there were many different versions of that scene so I’d like to ask, would you have some storyboards about that particular scene that you could kindly share with us? And also, it is to be expected that many plans are cut while producing an animated film but still, we’d perhaps like to hear of some, more developed plans aside from this one that didn’t make it to JOTB. And finally, it is more than a bit unfortunate that the studios change their animation crew for every film but still, thank you for your encouraging and interesting words concerning the future of the Land Before Time.

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Re: Asking LBT creators for information
« Reply #342 on: January 04, 2019, 02:29:01 PM »
Looks great to me. You are definitely improving with these messages :D
I suppose the message can be sent already as I don't see any problems with it :)
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Re: Asking LBT creators for information
« Reply #343 on: January 05, 2019, 04:34:35 PM »
I was quite busy today but now the message is sent. Let's hope for another answer.  :)



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Re: Asking LBT creators for information
« Reply #344 on: January 10, 2019, 09:36:49 AM »
Ah, storyboarding to film is as annoying a task as always. That's my first thought upon reading her response.

Missed the initial reply due to wisdom tooth surgery getting the better of me, but I'll echo everyone else and say that I'm happy with the response received. Still on the fence on whether Universal would ever make a 15th LBT film, but the reply received is quite the tidbit already! :D
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Re: Asking LBT production crew members for information
« Reply #345 on: June 11, 2019, 05:06:43 PM »
Since Hunter did not reply, perhaps we could move on to the next Journey of the Brave storyboard artist. I have the website links for Larry Houston, Fred Gonzales, and Robert Sledge in reply #298. Starting with Houston, I suppose we could ask him similar questions as we asked Hunter - were there any deleted scenes and if so do you still have any storyboards of them?

Also, I kinda want to know if Hunter was just mistaken when she identified the Featherhead Sharpteeth as "Allosauruses" because they certainly look like a lot more like either Monolophosaurus or Yutyrannus to me... so maybe we could ask Houston what kind of dinosaur the featherheads are supposed to be :p
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Re: Asking LBT production crew members for information
« Reply #346 on: June 12, 2019, 10:41:08 AM »
I guess we could do that as it's nearly certain that other people remember different cut scenes than Hunter did. As for the latter question, I'm not personally too interested in that one but I can put it in the message as well.
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Re: Asking LBT production crew members for information
« Reply #347 on: June 12, 2019, 01:40:41 PM »
I want to ask someone of LBTXIV production team about why Shorty was missing in movie much more than any possible deleted scenes and storyboards.  :SmugSpike
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Re: Asking LBT production crew members for information
« Reply #348 on: June 12, 2019, 04:16:48 PM »
As for the latter question, I'm not personally too interested in that one but I van put it in the message as well.

Actually forget what I said - I'll just ask one of them myself at some point since it's not that important.
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Re: Asking LBT production crew members for information
« Reply #349 on: June 14, 2019, 03:09:47 PM »
Well, here's my message proposal.

Greetings, Mr. Houston!

I am extremely impressed for the beautiful work you and the other artists did on the storyboards of the Journey of the Brave. I, for one, enjoyed that film greatly and it was a real relief to see the series finally get over JOTB’s immediate predecessor. It’s clear that storyboard answers like you were instrumental in bringing the Land Before Time to life again and for that, I’m very grateful.

However, I’d still be interested in asking what kinds of scenes you worked on, especially ones that might have been cut before the film’s release. One of the other storyboard artists told me about the ribcage scene so are there other cut scenes you might know of? Even better would be if you could share some storyboards of such scenes (or any scenes overall) you still might have. And finally, I’d be happy to know if you have any knowledge or guesses about the continuation of the LBT franchise.

We understand that you may not want to share everything with us but even answering a few of these questions would mean a lot to me and many other members of an LBT fansite called the Gang of Five. You may also add some funny memories of your own if you want to and thank you already in advance for a possible answer!

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Re: Asking LBT production crew members for information
« Reply #350 on: June 14, 2019, 04:42:01 PM »
Solid message, I would probably replace "the ribcage scene" with "a ribcage scene" if I was writing it but you don't have to.  :duckyhappy
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Re: Asking LBT production crew members for information
« Reply #351 on: June 15, 2019, 04:19:19 PM »
I already mentioned it on Discord but yeah, the message is sent.



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Re: Asking LBT production crew members for information
« Reply #352 on: August 26, 2020, 12:45:50 PM »
Last week, I sent an email to the original film’s screenwriter, Stu Krieger (who Sovereign had contacted a couple of years ago). I asked him some questions about the oasis scene. We know it was going to be in the film, but we do not know when it was cut. So, I asked him if he knew about it, and if so, when it was cut. I wanted to know if it ended up being animated.


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Hi ——,

It's always nice to hear from an LBT fan. As with any film, there were numerous iterations in the editing stages so there were a number of scenes that made it as far as the pencil-test animated version that didn' ultimately wind up in the film that was released. Some were cut for pacing, some were cut because they weren't adding new information to the overall plot and some were cut simply because (given the target audience) we wanted to keep the film tight and as engaging as possible. Even the addition of Rooter as the narrator came fairly late in the process. Viewing early cuts, we decided it would be helpful to have a "guide" filling in some of the backstory that we didn't want the young characters to articulate.
      In terms of the oasis scene, we always strived to have the "all species should be able to coexist" message of the film remain subtext more than something that was repeatedly hammered home. In all of the story conferences we had along the way, involving Spielberg, Lucas, Bluth, the producers and me, we never spoke directly about specific scenes in terms of their sociological context but instead focused on the storytelling and structure that best supported the notion of creating an entertaining film. In all honesty, given that we worked on the film from 1984-1988 (more than 32 years ago) I remember that oasis sequence but am not sure if it made it to the animation stage or not. As I said, A LOT of things came and went as the script and cuts of the movie evolved.

Sorry I can't be more definitive but I hope this did shed some light on the process.

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As you can see, he wasn’t sure when it was cut, but it was probably a silly question by me as it was over 30 years ago. He did imply that the oasis scene was cut to tone down the racism aspect, as we know, so it wasn’t shoved in the face of viewers. It was nice to hear from him about how the story was produced. And, I myself did not know that Pat Hingle ended up voicing the narrator that late.

I have since followed up with a reply, asking him about a couple other scenes, so I will post his next response here if I get one!
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Re: Asking LBT production crew members for information
« Reply #353 on: August 26, 2020, 05:17:07 PM »
Thak you very much, Stu Krieger. And thank you, Hypno!

It's first time I read how somebody tells about Rooter being Narrator. :D Though even without knowing who voices Narrator and Rooter, you can guess that their voices are very similar, and it makes sense. :D

and whoa, very early production was started somewhere in nineteen eighty FOUR? :O

sad we still didn't know if any part of Oasis sequence was colored.
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« Reply #354 on: August 27, 2020, 04:08:16 AM »
Thank you for writing an email for Krieger, Hypno, and especially big thanks to Stu that he had the time to answer your questions. Reading about how the production evolved throughout the years was very fascinating! Let's hope that Stu will answer any further questions. I will be looking forward to them for sure! :CeraHAPPY

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« Reply #355 on: August 27, 2020, 05:16:48 AM »
That's definitely a plus for the documentation side! Nice job getting that tidbit! :Mo
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Re: Asking LBT production crew members for information
« Reply #356 on: August 27, 2020, 08:48:22 AM »

and whoa, very early production was started somewhere in nineteen eighty FOUR? :O

Yeah, that one sure had me puzzled. Most sources say the concept of “The Land Before Time Began” was created in 1985. In Sovereign’s message, Krieger himself said that they begun work on it in 1985.
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