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You'll have to ask Myrkin, he's the one who's playing Chomper here. However, with the current plans I have, if you do want to meet him, it'll be very brief, and my character would likely try to talk you out of coming along.

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It would be fun to have some arguing, with your character trying to keep me out of it. I think that could be interesting. I'll PM myrkin about  meeting chomper.
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Quote from: The Chronicler,Mar 11 2011 on  09:36 PM
Well, since Rat_lady7 wants to tell everyone about everything we discussed, I might as wall post all the plans I had mentioned (at least the ones that we will apparently go through with).

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Chronicler, Ruby, Claw, and Chomper spend the entire day going to the home of Ruby's family, since it is the only place where Claw can find the cure for his problem. After talking with Ruby's family, Chronicler wanders off on his own in the evening. He is furious about not being home and declares that he will do whatever it takes to get back home, then he encounters a Fast-Biter than can speak both sharptooth and leafeater (called a "double-speaker" in the LBT world). The Fast-Biter reveals that he is alone because sharpteeth typically shun double-speakers as wimps, and he want's to prove them wrong. Realizing that both of them are desperate for something, Chronicler proposes a deal. Suspicious that the Rainbowfaces were responsible for bringing the GoF members to the LBT universe, Chronicler asks the Fast-Biter to capture one and get answers from him. In return, Chronicler will give knowledge on human combat that would benefit the Fast-Biters. They agree and walk away before anyone can notice them. It is the beginning of Chronicler's plot to betray the Great Valley.

(I'll admit it may have been influenced by Bionicle, but I'm quite fond of a plot that features a traitor.)

The next day, Chronicler discovers a surface deposit of iron ore. Intending to turn the iron into a sword, he digs up enough iron to fill a hollow log that he and Ruby carry with them back to the Great Valley. Along the way, Chronicler slips and breaks his leg. Refusing to go anywhere without the iron, he asks Claw and Chomper to go back to the Great Valley and get some help. While they're gone, a pack of Fast-Biters attack, and with Chronicler unable to stand, Ruby has no choice but to fight them off herself. She is able to hold them back for some time, but they're too much for her alone. The help from the Great Valley arrives at the last minute and saves them and takes them back to the Great Valley. Chronicler is forced to not go anywhere for a day while his leg heals. After that, he takes some of the iron to the Smoking Mountain and successfully forges a crude sword.

(The rest of these plans are so far ahead in the RP that they might as well be spoilers to anyone but you.)

After Screech and Thud decided to ditch Redclaw, they decide to join forces with the talking Fast-Biter when he convinces them that they will be guaranteed to be the most powerful Fast-Biters in the world, thanks to a traitor in the Great Valley. One night, Chronicler finds a secret location at the edge of the valley to meet with the Fast-Biter. Although he had successfully captured a Rainbowface and got some answers, Screech and Thud lost patience and killed him. As a result of getting little knowledge, Chronicler gives little knowledge to the talking Fast-Biter. However, it is enough for the Great Valley to get suspicious the next day. They realize someone is betraying the Great Valley, but nobody knows who it is (possibly further increasing tensions between the Great Valley residents and the GoF members). Things get even worse when Chronicler's sword goes missing and is revealed to have been given to the talking Fast-Biter by the traitor (everyone is still unaware that it's Chronicler).

(I haven't thought of what will happen here, but I'll let other people deal with it.)

Later on, the GoF members, along with the gang and others, are out in the Mysterious Beyond, but are ambushed by the talking Fast-Biter, who has now formed a pack comparable to an organized army, all of them armed with swords of their own. He takes all of the group prisoner, except for the traitor. It is at this time that Chronicler reveals himself as the traitor, much to everyone's (especially Ruby's) horror. The pack had indeed captured another Rainbowface, who Chronicler hopes to use to get back home. Eventually, after traveling some distance, the prisoners decide to fight back, despite the long odds.

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When the captured group fights back at the Fast-Biter army, my character tries to make his escape, knowing that traitors always get the worst punishment. His hopes of using the Rainbowface to escape sci-fi style turns out to be futile. As the tide of the battle turns against the Fast-Biter army, the talking Fast-Biter decides to call off the deal by throwing my character at the group while he, Screech, Thud, and the rest of the army flee. My character is then dragged back to the Great Valley and everyone is told of his treachery. Virtually everyone avoids him, but after a few days, some help from Ruby, and helping to defend the valley from another attack, he eventually regains everyone's trust. Meanwhile, the Fast-Biter army ends up competing with Redclaw to attempt to take over the Great Valley.
I hate to say it, but I have a lot of problems with these ideas. (I feel obliged to include my standard clause that I know full well that my opinions do not outweigh anyone else’s, and I intend absolutely no offense or ill will.)

Firstly, I would really, REALLY, emphatically prefer that there not be a war in this RP. This RP is already dark and violent enough for me; the last battle (which also involved an army of fast biters) was pushing it. Forgive me for being a LBT purist, but an army of sword-bearing sharpteeth intent on subjugating the Great Valley crosses the line WAY too far.

Also, I think Chronicler’s character is already the subject of some resentment for his rant preceding (and, perhaps in some valleyers’ eyes, provoking) the earlier sharptooth battle. While I certainly don’t have anything against Chronicler’s wishes to be more involved in the RP, is something as dramatic as his character deliberately betraying the valley and all the other characters really necessary for such a thing? It seems a stretch that the valley dinosaurs would EVER trust him again after that sort of thing.

I might need a refresher on the purpose and intentions of this RP; I always interpreted it as primarily a means for GOF members to imagine ourselves visiting the LBT world, meeting and interacting with LBT characters and each other. Assuming I’m not wearing a pair of rose-colored glasses here, wouldn’t this subplot idea have too much of a (negative, in the context of the RP) impact on too many players?

Finally, I don’t think it’s written as a rule anywhere, but aren’t we supposed to be playing as ourselves in this RP? Chronicler betraying the entire valley seems awfully out-of-character (or else there’s something about real-life Chronicler I don’t know :unsure:).

That’s not to say that I think all of these ideas are bad. I like the idea of the “double-speaker” fast biter, and think it’s something we could work with. Chronicler, rather than your character being intentionally traitorous, what if his deal with that fast biter had some sort of pretense, like that the fast biter could not directly share any of the information given to him with any other sharpteeth (only using it to make himself a more efficient hunter, etc.), or that he had to promise would be that he would not harm Ruby’s family or any of the dinosaurs in the Great Valley? Basically, the “double-speaker” would end up being the traitorous character (preferably in some way other than leading a horde of Mesozoic barbarian warriors into battle against the Great Valley). One idea is that they could use iron tools to excavate a tunnel into the Great Valley that would enable them to sneak in and out and “harvest” valley prey in secret. (Yeah, my ideas aren’t very creative or interesting; I just would really prefer it if we could tone down the humanlike warfare and deliberate betrayal of every friend and benevolent character in the RP.) The valley dinosaurs would still blame Chronicler’s character for it, and he’d have a more realistic chance of redeeming himself.

Also, I personally prefer the cause of our characters’ transportation to the LBT universe remaining blissfully ambiguous, but if Chronicler’s character’s rainbow face theory turns out to be just a red herring, I don’t have a problem with it. In fact, I think that sort of thing (trying to find out how our characters got to the LBT world, but failing to find out the exact cause) could make for an interesting subplot.

That’s about all I can come up with to say on this matter at the moment. (All I can do now is wait for other RPers’ feedback with a strong feeling of anxiety… :unsure:)



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I'm just bumping this topic right now.



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PLEASE SLOW THE *BLEEP* DOWN ON THE POSTING. K THANX BYE.

Seriously, I cannot keep up with you guys, I understand the excitement of joining an rpg, but PLEASE, PRETTY PLEASE WITH SUGAR AND A CHERRY ON TOP, post only as much as it says in the rules.

@Chronicler: Uh...I didn't mean to put the whole convos here, I just wrote down the ideas we agreed on and I hoped it would be okay.




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Sorry for not replying earlier. After reading over your comments, Pangaea, I find myself agreeing with you on many points. I guess this just further proves how much I tend to need second or third opinions. (My original set of plans were even more out-there, but Rat_lady7 convinced me to drop the sci-fi elements.) If anything, this just makes me feel a little embarrassed for coming up with such wild ideas for what apparently should be a tame RP :oops .

Instead, I'll try to expand on the ideas that both you and Rat_lady7 seemed to like, specifically the double-speaker Fast-Biter. Here's what I'm thinking so far: After the Fast-Biter questions the second Rainbowface, he realizes that Chronicler's beliefs are false, meaning there are no acceptable answers to give him. To get what he wants, the Fast-Biter decides to lie to Chronicler, and gets rewarded with a sample of iron, to help him find more of it, and a brief look at the sword to give ideas of what to do with the material. The Fast-Biter eventually makes his own weapon made of iron, and uses it to catch prey at a rate that was never before possible, effectively convincing Screech and Thud to continue working with him. Word of this spreads to the Great Valley, and they realize that only a human could have given that Fast-Biter such a weapon. Later on, when the Fast-Biter tries an attack on the valley, Chronicler has long since lost patience and demands to see the Rainbowface, even though this makes everyone realize that he was the traitor. The Fast-Biter contently admits that he lied, which makes Chronicler furious. Despite fending off the attack with his sword, Chronicler comes close to being an emotional wreak for not only betraying the valley but also getting betrayed himself. It is only with a lot of effort and help from Ruby that things eventually get better for Chronicler.

I'll avoid trying to think further ahead, lest I come up more of my wild ideas without realizing it. Please let me know that what you think of my ideas, so far.

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That sounds good to me. Very believable. More like a series of unfortunate events.

Other humans are going to need a role in this too. You can't be the center of attention :b
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Quote from: The Chronicler,Mar 18 2011 on  09:40 PM
Sorry for not replying earlier. After reading over your comments, Pangaea, I find myself agreeing with you on many points. I guess this just further proves how much I tend to need second or third opinions. (My original set of plans were even more out-there, but Rat_lady7 convinced me to drop the sci-fi elements.) If anything, this just makes me feel a little embarrassed for coming up with such wild ideas for what apparently should be a tame RP :oops .

Instead, I'll try to expand on the ideas that both you and Rat_lady7 seemed to like, specifically the double-speaker Fast-Biter. Here's what I'm thinking so far: After the Fast-Biter questions the second Rainbowface, he realizes that Chronicler's beliefs are false, meaning there are no acceptable answers to give him. To get what he wants, the Fast-Biter decides to lie to Chronicler, and gets rewarded with a sample of iron, to help him find more of it, and a brief look at the sword to give ideas of what to do with the material. The Fast-Biter eventually makes his own weapon made of iron, and uses it to catch prey at a rate that was never before possible, effectively convincing Screech and Thud to continue working with him. Word of this spreads to the Great Valley, and they realize that only a human could have given that Fast-Biter such a weapon. Later on, when the Fast-Biter tries an attack on the valley, Chronicler has long since lost patience and demands to see the Rainbowface, even though this makes everyone realize that he was the traitor. The Fast-Biter contently admits that he lied, which makes Chronicler furious. Despite fending off the attack with his sword, Chronicler comes close to being an emotional wreak for not only betraying the valley but also getting betrayed himself. It is only with a lot of effort and help from Ruby that things eventually get better for Chronicler.

I'll avoid trying to think further ahead, lest I come up more of my wild ideas without realizing it. Please let me know that what you think of my ideas, so far.
Don't worry about it. Sorry if I came off as harsh there. :oops

Your revised idea sounds much better. :yes I have an idea to add to it, to give the fast biter a reason to attack the Great Valley: since Screech and Thud are seeking revenge on a number of individuals in the valley, the talking fast biter goes to them to ask for help finding and extracting the iron for the sword (and subsequently making it), promising to help them attack the valley and capture/kill their targets in return.



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(Accidentally double-posted, so I moved part of my first post here.)

I suppose now's as good a time as any to discuss what I’ve been thinking of doing with Ozzy and Strut. A while ago I discussed an idea with Myrkin involving Rinkus and Sierra persuading Ozzy and Strut to help them with whatever goal they have in mind. More recently, however, I had a very different idea: that they would be a part of the group that goes to the Big Water. Though I’m hoping to have them engage in some of their typical bumbling attempts at egg-thievery around the valley first, my thought was that my character would convince them that they’d have better egg-hunting opportunities down at the Big Water, in the hopes of getting them out of the valley before any of its residents decides to go with a more orthodox (read: violent :p) method of dealing with egg stealers. The trouble is, I'm not sure what to do with them afterwards (i.e., at the end of the group's visit to the Big Water). I'm open to suggestions (and requests, if any other players wanted a chance for their characters to interact with Ozzy and Strut as they bumble about the valley :lol).



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suppose now's as good a time as any to discuss what I’ve been thinking of doing with Ozzy and Strut. A while ago I discussed an idea with Myrkin involving Rinkus and Sierra persuading Ozzy and Strut to help them with whatever goal they have in mind. More recently, however, I had a very different idea: that they would be a part of the group that goes to the Big Water. Though I’m hoping to have them engage in some of their typical bumbling attempts at egg-thievery around the valley first, my thought was that my character would convince them that they’d have better egg-hunting opportunities down at the Big Water, in the hopes of getting them out of the valley before any of its residents decides to go with a more orthodox (read: violent ) method of dealing with egg stealers. The trouble is, I'm not sure what to do with them afterwards (i.e., at the end of the group's visit to the Big Water). I'm open to suggestions (and requests, if any other players wanted a chance for their characters to interact with Ozzy and Strut as they bumble about the valley ).

Oooo, them joining the Big Water group, I looooove that idea!! Gives me maximum interactive-ness with them!! :lol: Wo0t!!


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Ozzy and Strut are joining the big water group? Awesome! I'm with FBS up there, love the idea!


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Yeah, I thought you two would be big supporters of that idea. :lol

I've also been thinking about when and how we should get started on the trip to the Big Water. I have no problem waiting for as long as anyone else wants, but it's something I figure we should discuss early nonetheless. I have some suggestions, but was hoping to hear other people's ideas first. :angel



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I'm not too sure. Personally, my method of knowing when it's time to go to Big Water is when someone literally says to me: "Hey, you wanna go to Big Water?" :lol


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Um since, Rat Lady has left the forum, who do we hand off her characters and who do we elect as the new GM?

Also, I am stuck without CT interacting with my characters.

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Attention All RPer's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unfortunately, Rat_Lady (a.k.a. Amy) has decided to leave GOF indefinitely. We wish her the best of luck in whatever she pursues with her life, and we will always be here for her if she ever decides to come back.

This now leaves the RP unattended to. There are couple options we have here to chose from in terms of what we want to do with it:

1. We can start over with a new RP, giving us a clean slate. I don't know what Amy was planning to do with her characters or with others, so it may get a little hectic trying to figure everything out. Starting the RP over would start everybody on the same page, and then we could come to an agreement about what we want the plot as well as any subplots to be. We can also redistribute characters as we see fit. This would lead to a new discussion board as well, so we wouldn't get the two confused with each other.

2. We can continue the RP as it is going, but under a new GM. If we go with this choice, then I propose that Pangaea runs it with myself providing assistance. Pangaea already has experience with running this RP when Amy first left, and I would be more than happy to help moderate things and keep everything in line and running smoothly.

3. We can close the RP indefinitely. This would be a last resort option, but if we cannot come to an agreement on what should be done then it may be best to just end it here. I personally don't want to do this option, but I'll leave it out there anyway.

I know this must be a shock to everybody, especially the new RPer's, but I do not want to see this RP die off after everything it has been through. I'm going to send Pangaea a PM about my suggestions and we can discuss it more here.


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I think rebooting this RP with a clean slate is the best option because it looks like things have kind of been a clusterf---.

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I'm afraid a long, deliberative post from me on what to do next is going to have to wait for the moment, given how I'm feeling right now, but I at least wanted to step in to say the following:
Quote from: LBTFan13,Mar 21 2011 on  12:17 PM
I know this must be a shock to everybody, especially the new RPer's, but I do not want to see this RP die off after everything it has been through.
I couldn't have put it better. Too many of us have plans for what we want to do with this RP, and I do not want to see it die or restart, nor do I intend to. I'll contact Rat_lady7 and find out what she wanted to do with her characters, and hopefully we'll be able to proceed as planned. And though I'm hardly happy about it, I will step up to the position of GM, accepting LBTFan's offer to assist with more gratitude than I can express in writing. (Honestly, Rob, I can't thank you enough. Personally, I think you'd be as good a choice for replacement GM as me, if not a better one).

I'll follow up on this later.



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I'm with Pangea, I wouldn't want to see this RP be stopped or restarted. I'm having a lot of fun with it, and I'd like to see it continue.
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Rat_lady7 left?!  :blink: ...............NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!  :(

I'm with Pangaea and vonboy here; I think it's best to continue the RP as there's probably lotsa people (including me :P: ) who have ambitions, hopes, and dreams on what they wanna do and I don't want it to have to be changed or restarted.

Thank you Pangaea for stepping up to the plate and to you too LBTFan for offering your assistance. I could offer some help too, but unfortunately I have very little experience to offer...  :unsure:


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It seems the general idea is to continue the RP. We can wait for others to put forth their opinions before we make any official decision.

Pangaea, if you would rather not be GM of the RP, then I can certainly do it and you can assist me. The main reason why I nominated you is because you probably had the most contact with Amy out of all of us. I never really talked to her about the RP that much. However, I can understand if you'd rather not run it, but I do think you would make a great GM (you already have ;) ).


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Rat_lady7 has left? How? Why? Why so sudden?  :blink:

I support Pangea as new GM for the same reasons stated by LBTFan13. :)
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